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Tony Mowbray, dignity!
roversfan99 replied to darrenrover's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
@RevidgeBlue you keep repeatedly saying that Mowbray has burnt through £100m of the owners money. 1. Why have you assumed in advance a loss of £36.5m in the 2022 accounts? 2. How can you possibly put down the general inefficient running of the club from the top down in a league whereby many teams make regular losses solely down to the manager, and compared to managers in a totally different financial landscape decades ago? He seems a bit miffed lately not that he hasnt been offered a new deal but that he hasnt been communicated to on the subject, a frustration shared by all previous managers under Venkys. Edit: Apologies for a poor quality screenshots. Losses in the accounts of 2021, 2020, 2019 and 2018 are £6.6m, £21.9m, £18.2m and £16.8m respectively. -
He deserved to be sacked at the end of last season when we regressed to 15th but based on results, not this recent obsession about "actions or lack of them on the touchline."
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I suspect that the next few weeks (and beyond, no doubt it will drag out) will be a hotbed of self-anointed ITK's with a million and one different names regarding a potential new manager, and a lot of premature excitement/anger on the back of it. We haven't even officially announced that Mowbray is going so I suspect it will be a decent wait.
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Is our wage bill between the 6th and 8th highest in the league?
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This 15m-20m "contribution" is not relevant to judging performance.
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v Bournemouth (h) - 30/4/22
roversfan99 replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
It would be counterproductive and unrealistic to expect the crowd to go into a game that has (albeit a tiny hope of) a chance riding on it being hostile. If it was hostile, then it would surely be against our idiot owners. -
I dont doubt that we need to change manager but your naivety and lack of ability to learn from the past in regards to what will likely happen this summer baffles me, we arent an efficiently run club. I also think you underestimate the difficulty in getting a top 6 place under these owners with our comparative resources, it isnt impossible by any means but it would be a very good achievement. You thinking that a new manager just has to do what you have outlined (ignoring considerable selection differences Again, mediocrity, average, ok, bang in the middle on average, probably around or indeed just above our comparative wage budget. Could do better and time for a change but certainly could have done worse and not turgid (which im not sure even makes sense in that context) but by making silly comparisons to Kean and Coyle, youve very much nailed your colours to the mast.
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Is "turgid" a fair (or indeed) accurate description of a Championship record of 2x 15th finishes, an 11th place finish and likely an 8th or 9th place finish over 4 years, with resources within that range, perhaps towards the lower end? No top 6, no relegation worries in any full seasons. Mediocre, ok, decent. Also, we shouldnt treat tomorrow as a dead rubber, its beyond a long shot but until its mathematically over, why just throw in the towel?
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It cant be a situation whereby simply anyone where Mowbray will do, as much as he has to go. A win in the last 2 would be (I think this is right) the most wins in a Championship during the terrible Venkys area so he does understand how to win and cant be that unambitious. We need an improvement to take us forward, however those chances are about in line with our chances of somehow making the play offs under these terrible owners sadly.
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Championship 21/22
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
It's the longest of long shots, less than a 1% chance, but I don't get the point in being so dismissive. -
v Bournemouth (h) - 30/4/22
roversfan99 replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I don't see us winning but these players seem to thrive on there being no pressure, Mowbray told the players that our chances were over (paraphrasing his post match comments) and to relax and it led to a 4-1 win. Why is Poveda in over Hedges and Davenport in over Rothwell? Even if both of the outs are injuries, they would be random choices to come in. -
Haha, absolutely obsessed/transfixed with a director of football being appointed above a head coach at every single club!
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Duncan Ferguson would be purely because he runs around a lot on the touchline, which based on recent weeks does in fairness seem to be a commonly held necessary skill. Definitely wouldn't want him. https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/20105026.blackburn-rovers-preparations-next-season-underway/ "if we did win the play-offs we wouldn’t be signing some of the players that we’re maybe looking at on free transfers and on a few grand a week." Doesn't scream of a Venkys masterplan incoming featuring investment.
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I want him gone and have wanted him gone much more often than yourself. I was just dismissing the blatant lie that specifically this season that he has been backed, he hasn't. A club with our resources hindered by our owners would need to overachieve to get into the top 6, that shouldn't be forgotten, and one thing I do appreciate about Mowbray is the element of safety he provides, you are unlikely to underachieve with him and get dragged into a relegation fight. That being said, we should aim bigger, that can be achieved if things come together as has been proved by teams over the years and he isn't capable of pushing us on, so his departure is needed. It's the arrogance thinking that everything is easy and you are ahead of the curve that makes me laugh. Had we played the team suggested, it would not have won 4-1 regardless of formation with a total rookie at right back and Johnson barely able to move in central midfield.
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Would you add a further £30 premium for the removal of Venkys, out of interest.
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Massively backed is hyperbolic in the extreme. So being backed just means being able to bring in players at all, even just loans despite selling your 15m striker and allowing senior players to leave? That means every club in the world is backed by the owners. Its a good job he didnt listen to you before Preston otherwise the dynamism would have been swapped for Johnson lugging himself after Preston midfielders. Lots of reading between the lines then. That plan is not consistent with anything in the last 12 years.
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The point is that Venkys dont do logic. Surely you think that the manager not hearing a peep regarding potential contract talks due to the usual silence is not acceptable? He has been financially backed including this season?! His main goalscorer was sold and none of the money was available to buy a striker, the taps are off. The resources he has had in general are often exaggerated and he is on course for an overall profit on the fees on his business assuming Brereton goes. Hes been a safe pair of hands who cant sustain a full season of overachievement to get us into the play offs so he cant take us forward. My point is that they never intended to visit, they dont care, it was to be expected. Why you keep justifying their negligence (you do the same about the big gap before making the manager fly to India) is beyond me. They are the reason this club cant properly progress. It is obviously the right time for Mowbray to go but firstly you seem to be under the impression naively that everything is down to a formation change to prove you are ahead of the curve even though your suggested team was considerably different. Also there is a way to do it and this isnt it, communicate constantly, be proactive, just not words Venkys are familiar with. Lets hope you are right and they have a competent manager lined up amidst a root and branch change in footballing structure, all to be done imminently after the season ends, with money invested. Youd be mad to expect it and it wont happen though.
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We need someone who is suitably qualified rather than a kid just because of his surname to be in a position of genuine authority and power to make footballing decisions. This seemingly will never happen under Venkys yet some believe they genuinely have a plan that excites them.
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Not from someone who is not remotely qualified and presumably wouldn't have the authority to make decisions anyway. I am not convinced that the main family will ever relinquish or delegate any of the power down.
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Is that enough (being educated in the country) to potentially get a crucial job within our already incompetent footballing structure just because of who he is?
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I think youll be shocked when very little if any of that happens under Venkys. The statement implied that Venkys will keep a keen interest concluding in attending a game this season.