If it is true that Waggott is going around telling random fans outside the ground that the manager's job is on the line, I would suggest that doing so is incredibly unprofessional. I very much doubt that Mowbray's job is indeed on the line sadly, I suppose logic and Venkys dont go hand in hand but why would they sack him when we are 7th when they didn't at the end of a season when we finished 15th.

Really happy with that today, not only a win but to come back from a goal down and to win comfortably showed great character. Mowbray deserves loads of credit for making a few brave calls regarding his team selection that all paid off and 3 wins from 4 is not bad at all despite Wednesdays horror show. I thought the atmosphere today was really good, I expected things to turn after the early goal but there were no signs of that and it was nice of Mowbray to mention the crowd in his post match interview. I thought that Poveda was absolutely brilliant, a goal and an assist merited for a positive and brave performance. Khadra was less convincing, repeatedly running down blind alleys although his set piece delivery was really good. Brereton had a strange game, a few poor finishes and bits of clumsiness but yet another goal. Travis was excellent in midfield and drove the team on alongside Davenport who probably had his best performance in a Rovers shirt. Edun worries me at left back to be honest and I thought that Wharton looked very rusty which is understandable. Lenihan and Nyambe were solid and Kaminski made a couple of key saves.

Lingard would be best off waiting until he is a free agent rather than getting a potentially unnecessary relegation on his CV.

Superb goal by Armstrong.

Did they chase Conte and Xavi? They chased Emery who turned them down. Not sure why Aaron Ramsey would join Newcastle either. They are at huge risk of going down and I cant imagine him playing in the Championship, especially if his wages would be cut in such a situation. He reportedly joined Juventus on 400k a week so money alone wont attract him. Lingard again would be best advised to turn down any potential offer. He is far too good to play for a potential Championship club and if he sits on his contract for half a season more, he would be a very appealing free agent to teams towards the top, never mind the bottom, a West Ham return being the obvious one. And even again in the last 6 months of his deal, Burnley would be mad to sell Tarkowski to a potential relegation rival. It could be a difficult window even with a massive budget, convincing good players to join a relegation dogfight with a big chance of Championship football next season and under an uninspiring manager.

I found it strange, yet a smattering of applause for Cairney. I think it was mainly the braindead kids to the right of the Blackburn End who were also singing "we want 7" at 6 nil, which they got.

That implies that the owners are invested in the club, are monitoring performance closely and that is before considering the unfortunately naive scenario of a spending spree in January. They probably are none the wiser that we lost 7 nil. The likes of Mercer and Paul Mani clutching at straws having said a million and one times over the last couple of years that a Mowbray exit is imminent does nothing to make me feel even 1% confident that he won't at least last the season.

The statement in bold is typical of the illogical way that people view the current situation. Who appointed Mowbray, and allow him to remain in his job despite regressing due to their negligence and disinterest? Why aren't they in any way responsible when they have been the common denominator in 11 dismal years? I have repeatedly stated for a good 18 months that I want Mowbray out, but equally I don't get bogged down in analysing every word he says, nor do I think that he is the primary thing wrong with the club or responsible for everything. The reason that I say that it won't happen unlike yourself who believes the most cryptic sources and whispers is because I know that the main underlying problem ie Venkys do not judge their managers and act upon that like normal owners.

*Venkys out. Although who will hear that message?

Chaddy, I've wanted Mowbray out much longer than you have. I am well aware that we need a new manager, but the fact that we dont and wont anytime soon is down to the real, underlying issue, Venkys.

Ive wanted him sacked for a lot longer than you, I think "massively financially backed" is an exaggeration and I think that a top 6 finish would have been an overachievement but not an unrealistic one, the problem is that we are regressing, certainly last season. We are falling further away. But I suspect that the penny will never drop for you no matter how low we go with these bastard owners. You brush the fact that they are choosing to keep him due to the fact that they dont give a shit under the carpet. They probably dont even know the score from last night. Their choices of manager and the duration to which they keep them throughout their time has been awful and shows no signs of changing. Venkys are the problem for choosing to ignore the massive symptom of an underperforming manager, and for some reason you and others dont seem to grasp that. If we was run properly then he wouldnt still be in a job, Venkys are the main issue and have been the common denominator in 11 years of woe.

That would never happen, 100% participation, but the protests when Kean was here were constant and were continuously making headlines, but nothing happened. I bet even an attendance of 0 wouldnt have done anything. Venkys are different to the Oystons, out in India never attending, ignorance is bliss.

He hasnt been sacked in the last 18 months and almost certainly wont be this season because of THE main problem. Do Venkys not get any blame for not giving a shit and allowing him to stay on? Even Kean and Coyle werent the problem when they were here and both should never have been appointed, Venkys are always the problem, Mowbray is a big symptom. I certainly wont be getting my hopes up with your track record, as much as I would like him to go.

He is not the current problem, Venkys are, have always been and always will be. A problem? Obviously. Not THE main one. Mowbray is a symptom, he should have been long since sacked. Why has he not? Because the owners do not give a shit! Backed to the hilt is an exaggeration, but we will never overachieve and properly progress under him, he has long since outstayed his welcome. How has the penny not dropped yet?! Firstly, "so shit" is hyperbolic, aside from last night when it isn't strong enough. We are bog standard, average, stagnant, regressive. But why is this manager still here, with no threat as to his future? Because of Venkys, so yes it is down to them that we are underperforming, as we have been for 11 horrendous years.

I have mentioned on another thread, I do think that we would have to overachieve to get into the play offs all things considered. I also suggested examples of how such an overachievement is far from an impossibility with a really good manager, so I do think that it is possible. I do think that the conditions to which Mowbray has worked under are over exaggerated, I don't think necessarily that it a disgrace that we have never made the play offs, and a truly terrible manager could have easily done much worse. Warnock said that he was approached by Venkys, but he knew best and ran a mile. Ultimately, that manager will likely never come under these owners, and the current one stays indefinitely, because as I keep saying, he is just a symptom. Venkys are the disease and whilst they own our football club, it will seemingly forever be incurable.

I wasn't defending him, but Mowbray isn't the problem. Ultimately throughout his time here following promotion, we have never been genuinely close to a relegation fight, nor have we come close to overachieving (which any manager would have to do to get us into the top 6, we don't have the resources of a top 6 side, but overachieving is possible as a team a season tends to prove, Coventry and Barnsley are 2 examples) and pushing on properly in his time here. Had he not been allowed to outstay his welcome so long, he would leave with his head held high, as it is, it has become a little bitter and sour. To be pedantic, you could argue that throwing his possession experiment in the bin shows that he isnt as stubborn as he seems and it has got "us up the table" slightly. His reign hasn't been disastrous, we haven't tumbled down the leagues and not returned, we have not been embroiled in constant battles at the bottom, he just is clearly incapable of pushing us on yet is left to linger because our owners don't give a shit. To go off on a tangent, the following is blatantly untrue as far as I am concerned, "We also have an exciting crop of youngsters, who he is failing miserably to integrate into the team effectively." Which youngsters are you referring to? Lenihan was a poor midfielder prior to Mowbray coming in, now he is captain. Nyambe was only just breaking into the team occasionally under Coyle, now he is a regular. Travis came through under Mowbray and since he did, he has been a regular. Buckley has broke through under Mowbray and been trusted at times when sceptics (myself included) were unsure to become a regular first teamer. Whenever fit, Rankin Costello is seen by the manager as a safe pair of hands (not one that I have ever been truly convinced by) to fill in numerous positions. Wharton after a few loan spells was establishing himself as a regular last season prior to injury. The likes of Carter, Butterworth and Magloire have also been dipped in occasionally perhaps due to necessity, even though none of those 3 have really taken their chances. But yeah, Mowbray has not been taking this club forward for 18 months, I think I have been consistent in asking for change throughout that time, but it highlights what we are dealing with in that it has never seemed likely at any point during those 18 months. I just can't abide by anyone in any way defending or praising the owners considering what we continue to see before us. Even praising them for merely raising the share capital to offset the debts for one of their businesses that they themselves neglect otherwise as if it is a good deed, how low are our standards? Standing in the cold in an empty Ewood last night watching a crap manager and a crap set of players get thumped by a record scoreline whilst our owners are on the other side of the world probably totally unaware, it just makes me sick.

The manager should have been sacked 18 months ago. But if he left today, he hasn't really caused much damage in that we are in a slightly better position than when he came. Venkys have caused untold, continuous damage, and is another symptom that stems from India. They don't care about the club, so they just allow him to crack on even whilst he underperforms, hence why he is a symptom, the root cause is Venkys, always has been, always will be. It is more that I find it utterly baffling that people actively defend the owners even now. Carter was crap, I suppose coming into a game against Fulham who were 2 up and a man up is difficult, but he wasn't very good, and to be honest hasn't really convinced me in any game that he has played for the first team, he did ok at Forest away as a stand in right back but otherwise he has been very shaky, even after a loan spell at Burton in which he apparently did brilliantly in. But as I said in the Fulham thread, no outfield player was over 2 out of 10. Unsure if you watched the Huddersfield game when Magloire came on and the Blackpool game in which he started, I watched the former on TV and was at the latter, and in 2 other poor team performances, Magloire still stood out (in a bad way) amidst that all, he was horrendous.

I would disagree, Magloire is much worse. But Carter is miles off the standard too. Van Hecke is crap aswell. Hopefully we have at least 2 available of Lenihan, Ayala and Wharton going forward.

One word, Venkys.

Venkys wont even be aware that we have a game on Saturday, never mind if a protest took place. Think back to the Kean protests, they dont care, in the end years later he resigned, they didnt sack him. Any protests would need to be against Venkys, they are the issue, a protest wouldnt get them out, sadly we are all helpless.

Absolutely crazy that some people still seem in denial as to where all of our problems stem from.

An absolute joke. If ever you wanted a perfect illustration of our negligent owners, last night was it. They deserve our ire more than anyone else. Watching a manager who should have been potted 18 months ago lead out a desperate group of players cobbled together (8 kids/academy graduates, a loanee, a freebie, 3 cheap signings and just one of any value) whilst our absent owners are nowhere to be seen whilst their "baby" sinks to a new low. Little surprised that our record home loss in 146 years is within the 11 years that they have been here. Little use or need for detailed analysis, none of the outfield players would have scored over 2 out of 10, but special mentions for the idiot that is Van Hecke, his early appearances have threatened the sort of clumsiness and cowardice that we saw yesterday, horrendous defending. And Edun is not a left back, technically and physically fine but AWOL too often including for their 3rd and 4th goals. Plus Rothwell should hope that Gerrard wasn't watching. Venkys out. Mowbray out. I think they turned up. It is Rovers that don't turn up on a cold night in Blackburn.

@only2garners @K-Hod please would you again be able to flag up the piss poor service on the concourses at the moment which was brought up at the last forum I believe and typically of him, Waggott seems to have done nothing. I went down 5 minutes before half time last night straight into a queue for a much needed beer, and at the point of the second half kicking off, I was 5 or 6 places away from the front of the queue still, which is pathetic. Every single person who joined the queue after me had given up and at that point I did too, in one queue of one concourse, that might be £100 down the drain so god knows how much money the club is failing to bring in by willing members of a skeletal attendance to begin with. Surely they have to look at pre pouring drinks, the people serving are painfully slow but I am unsure if that element of it can be improved. If Waggott is worried that some people will not be content with pre poured drinks, maybe have some queues for pre poured, and some (which will invariably be longer although somewhat reduced) being poured on demand. Last night was the second half time of the season that I have gone for a pint and the second time that I have had no choice but to give up.

A team packed full of Championship experience and players who are used to playing regularly at this level including midweek im sure will have no fears. The overused cliche you quote isnt even accurate as it isnt raining, and they are coming from London, not Rio De Janiero.

100%. Football looked alien to him.