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If people are going to question anyone who is criticising the owners for the fact that so many key senior players are so close to the end of their deals, implying that they are probably asking for too much and querying how people can lambast the owners without being privy to the inner details. How can those people defend the owners without being privy to those details either? If it was one for example, then maybe you could suggest that it is the player being unreasonable. But a few at once, surely not.
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v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Brereton has had numerous games this season in which his only real contribution has been getting on the scoresheet. I don't think that there is a disparity between their all round games as you are suggesting, he often mis-times his runs, his clumsiness is still fairly regularly apparent, and I don't think that he is this all round team player constantly helping others, he has only 1 assist in half a season compared to 5 assists by Armstrong last season. Their worth comes from the goals that they score. I know that you never seemed to particularly warm to Armstrong but he had a phenomenal personal season last season getting one of the highest goal tallies in Championship (since its rebrand) and if Brereton gets the same or a similar goal tally, then he will have had a similarly brilliant season. I think that part of the general esteem that he is held in compared to Armstrong comes from the back story, the first 2 years, the Chile call up and also how he seems as a person, a bit aloof. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Last night the atmosphere was non existent, such a small crowd and you can totally understand it, there is even evidence on here of people not rushing back from work or braving the cold etc when they can watch it from home instead. We were 4 nil up but there were simply not enough people to create a reasonable atmosphere, the decision to televise these games is killing atmospheres. I don't get why everything has to be spun as a slight on the manager. There is plenty of things that can justifiably be aimed at the manager that he has done wrong, the development of both Wharton and Travis under him are undoubted successes. Wharton kept being loaned out with many cynical as to whether he would ever make our first team, Mowbray was keen for him to fill out physically as he kept saying, and he said last summer that he had filled out and would now remain with our first team. There is nothing "grudgingly" about his selection, last season he was selected above Ayala at least once and in the last 2 games he could easily have been taken back out for him but he hasnt. Travis played WITH Smallwood at Sheffield United, you can create hypothetical situations whereby Travis goes out on loan in January and never establishes himself here (everything in life is somewhat down to circumstance) but Travis kept his place not only in those 3 games but permanently going forward, seeing Smallwood (an ex Boro favourite of Mowbray) out in the cold as a result, purely because of Travis' performance. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Brilliant win against lets be honest an appalling Peterborough side who are a perfect case of a typical promoted team desperate to "stick to its principles" despite all logic and that is a decision that will see them back in League 1 next year. We were hungry to pick up on their regular mistakes and clinical and professional after that. Mowbray deserves plenty of credit for how we have started the season, exceeding expectations with a thin squad off the back of a summer where he had to rely on filling the numbers up with kids on loan. Our shift in style has been necessary and has shown that the manager is perhaps less stubborn than I initially thought. Pickering is so much steadier than Edun, Nyambe possibly doesn't suit wing back but he was of course untested but very steady, and Lenihan and Wharton were good making the central 3 seem so much more balanced. Kaminski did well to keep a clean sheet with an important save after a sloppy start to the second half and Ayala clearly does not like working in the cold. Rothwell was the pick of the midfielders and ran the game, and Buckley was good too with a very good cross for the first goal, Travis was quiet and is in my opinion somewhat shackled by having those 2 more attacking midfielders next to him but he can cope in there. Dolan was full of energy as always and Brereton got 2 more goals, mentions in this chat of comparisons to Armstrong are perhaps premature, the acid test is more or less than 28 goals, if he gets near as you would like to think he will, that is 2 successive seasons in which Mowbray signings have or are racking up outstanding goal tallies. I thought Butterworth was desperate to impress but he appeared a little too selfish for my liking in a last half hour that was a non entity otherwise. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Absolutely backwards on behalf of the whole league. It is little wonder that attendances are so low with this and the red button. -
January Transfer window 2022
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Seen much of him live? Cant see us spending much if anything unless we sell Brereton, maybe he would be a potential replacement. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Some of those judgements are either years in the past, paraphrased or simply inaccurate, but fair enough, if I don't have a clue what I am talking about and do not share your undoubted knowledge of the game and eye for a player, then may I ask why you repeatedly comment on basically every one of my posts debating what I say and seemingly note down everything that I say? Surely a more constructive approach would be to merely ignore someone who you deem to be so out of touch in his judgements about football and someone who seemingly in your eyes needn't bother watching football at all?! -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I am basing it on when we have played it recently. For example at QPR, we barely had a shot all night, the 3 can become a 5 very easily, Nyambe is better as a right back in a 4, and it means that we either play only 2 in midfield which leaves us to become overrun, or if we go with 3 in there, it leaves only 2 attacking players on the pitch and a lack of width. I don't like 3 at the back as a tactic to occasionally go to and from, teams that excel at it tend to play it consistently. To be honest, if we do go down the path of 3 at the back as I do expect, then I am anticipating a long and uneventful evening sat in the freezing cold. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Would disagree on Saturday, to be honest I don't think anyone got us going. Premier League predictions for me are such a long way away if of course ever. Definitely has improved this season but doesn't stand out in the Championship, albeit at a tender age. He may well improve and get there, but I couldn't predict or say with any certainty at this stage. His main strength is winning the ball back but even if he doesn't become a regular goalscorer, he needs to chip in. His shooting is as weak as I can remember from anyone. Needs to get those incisive passes right once or twice more often too although that pass is in his locker. Because when we play it, 99% of the time we struggle even more to create. Playing against a really poor Peterborough side at home, I don't think we need a third centre back. Did help on Saturday but more to stem the tide. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Where is this from? I would guess the same but I really hope not. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I thought he was, watched the whole game and as you said he wasn't on his own especially in the first half but he was fairly anonymous throughout, he does sometimes have games where he struggles to stamp any authority on the game and was lucky to stay on for the full game. A speculative shot that wasn't ever likely to go in mid way through the second half and an overhit the pass in the first half the main contributions. I feel that he needs to start doing a bit more in the final third to guarantee justified starts every week. Still yet to score this season from attacking midfield and even with his passing, undoubtedly has a defence splitting ball in his locker but needs to do it a bit more. Of course, but just worth a mention as I don't see much on the bench to change the game if it wasn't going to plan and we needed a goal. -
v Peterborough United (h) - 24/11/21
roversfan99 replied to Gone to seed's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Kaminski Nyambe Lenihan Ayala Pickering Travis Davenport Dolan Rothwell Khadra Brereton Subs: Pears, Edun, Wharton, Butterworth, Johnson, Buckley, Clarkson Fully expecting a back 3 but I would prefer the above, Davenport can give us more balance and Buckley was really poor at the weekend so bring Rothwell back in his place. Weak bench is a major concern. -
January Transfer window 2022
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
As if we have the depth of squad to stick 3 key first teamers in the reserve prior to any sale. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. -
Not every player should be signed to make a profit on, and conversation about wages and signing on fees is purely speculative.
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This constantly repeated assertion that Venkys put in 20m a season given to a manager pleading "limited resources" implies that he receives that 20m a season. That is wrong on a few counts. The 20m is not a consistent "investment" for a start, it reached 20m last year in the first set of accounts to show any impact of covid, it has not been a recurruring "investment" under Venkys. The investment does not go to the manager or into the playing squad. Mowbrays budget over the 5 years in terms of fees wont be far off zero. Gallagher and Brereton were 12m, Raya 3.5m, profit on Armstrong close to 10m, a few other nominal fees under 1m here and there. That is all obviously before the consideration that the losses are as high as they are because of the owners, "owners input above average" my arse. Acting like a minnow compared to that, again nonsense. The investment is merely raising shares in another company to cover losses, hardly pumping in money out of ambition. This idea that the issues are concentrated within the management team are seemingly being repeated via an agenda. The hilarity of it all coming from the lack of responsibility that the owners take for the managements continued employment. And to make it clear, as has been the case for the last 18 months, I want a change of manager.
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January Transfer window 2022
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Did they ever look better than they do at the moment? I know it doesnt fit the narrative and I appreciate that Nyambe was crap at the weekend but he is definitely better tham say he was at the start of last season, and Travis is maturing too. -
His main 3 signings financially have been Armstrong, Brereton and Gallagher and between the 3, they are already close to generating a profit on fees from one sale, so when the second is sold (his contract technically ends in 2023) we will generate a profit. Gallagher is the poorest of the 3, but still isn't a total dud and the narrative about him being a wasted striker is for me proving disingenuous because when he plays centrally, especially this season, he is arguably less effective. I can't understand how personal bias/agenda aside, his transfer record could be seen as well below average. Average would be about right for me, and probably is proof of the theory that a manager is only as good as his recruitment, some obvious highlights but overall, mixed, ok, no more or less. Excellent owners would seldom appoint a poor manager, but everyone makes mistakes. So excellent owners would ensure that any underperforming managers are removed at the correct time. Owners and their managerial choices are interconnected, indeed a manager is as key as any in the performance of a set of owners. Hyperbole won't shift him either, nothing we say or do will. So whilst debating on here, we may aswell try to be balanced and reasonable.
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You are yourself plucking figures out of thin air. Mowbray has said on countless occasions that he does not ideally like to sign players on loan deals and that he would always prefer permanent players. He also said in the summer that he was unable to even sign experience on loan because the selling club would want a significant wage contribution, whereas with younger players you can loan them by selling them the idea that they can gain experience, pointing to past examples including Elliott. I therefore think that in my opinion, it is almost certain that the signings in the summer were done so basically because that is all that we could afford. The only player out of those that I have seen the wage contribution of reported in the media was when Rich Sharpe said that we contributed only 2k a week towards the Trybull loan, and even then you take it with a pinch of salt. You certainly won't hear me defend Gallagher on a value for money basis, the wage again is a guess but 5m as a fee is widely reported and he certainly isn't worth that. He is not a player that I wanted us to sign or I rate highly but he does chip in with goals and there are certainly worse attackers in the league. I was just calling you out for suggesting that he has been "abysmal" or indeed in regards to suggesting that Mowbray's general transfer record is quite as bad as you seem keen to make out. I would suggest that it is ok, I suspect that once Brereton is sold we will be well in profit under him, but both permanently and on loan, there have been some brilliant signings, some poor ones and a lot in between. Perhaps indicative of his general career here, pretty decent, never threatening to be excellent in general but certainly not dreadful though. The reason that I feel like you are doing that is evident based on your ongoing debate with Gav in which you are very much solely focusing on Mowbray/Waggott and Gav is very consistent in suggesting that Venkys are the common denominator. The difference is that (unsure if it is based on the cryptic whispers that you seem so invested in) you won't overly engage in any Venkys based criticism even realising that they are the ones that continue to employ the 2 figures that you despise, whereas Gav again suggested before that he would like a change of manager and that Mowbray has outstayed his welcome. Gallagher or our general transfer record in the last 5 years being described as "abysmal" is the sort of hyperbole that can then focus angst back onto Mowbray, even if it is exaggerated.
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Gallagher is certainly not an abysmal signing nor a dream/one of the first names on the teamsheet, or he shouldn't be. Can't hold the ball up, bring others into play, as bad at you'll find at any of that, but a reasonable goal return and plenty of powerful running means that abysmal is not fair, and I am far from his biggest fan. As and when we sell Brereton, Mowbray will overall have generated a profit in the market to be fair to him. His transfer record certainly isn't outstanding but its at least average/ok.
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January Transfer window 2022
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Waggott's lack of professionalism comes out further and further with each word of what he has allegedly told random fans. Simply shouldn't be speaking like this. -
Premier League season 21/22
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Did he? I have never seen signs of a style of play. -
Premier League season 21/22
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
So you are given the United job, transfixed with these ideals you keep mentioning about how football should be played with pressing and high intensity and inheriting a squad including guaranteed goalscorers such as Ronaldo, Fernandes and Rashford who dont really fit those tactical ideals. Youve got 3 options, what would you do: 1. Play those star players especially Ronaldo and compromise on your ideals, playing tactics better suiting those players. 2. Play those star players especially Ronaldo who arent suited to pressing high but tell them that this how you want to play so you expect them to press high regardless. 3 Drop Ronaldo and Fernandes for inferior players such as Lingard but ones who are more likely to press high and fit your tactics. -
Premier League season 21/22
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Solskjaer never really had clearly defined tactics and was always reliant on individuals getting him out of the shit which Ronaldo has done more than most this season. You cant argue that he would play if United are picking their strongest team so its all about getting the best out of him, not expecting him to do thinks he cant (or wont) do to fit idealistic ideas of tactics. Pressing, high intensity football is not the way they should or can play based on the players they have. -
Premier League season 21/22
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Kane wouldnt press much either. I do have my doubts over the Ronaldo signing but lets face it, he is still a fantastic goalscorer and he has got them out of the shit more than once already. Mourinho has been the most successful manager since Ferguson and won trophies and he wasnt fussed about playing pretty football. These days there is a strange obsession over playing styles of football. The next manager should be judged solely on trophies.