If indeed we did sign someone from Liverpool, I think Ojo might be sold if possible, and players like Rhys Williams and Neco Williams I suspect will remain with their first team. So it would most likely be someone who has never played for the first team.

Do you know the position of this mystery player?

Even in this situation where you have assumed that Mowbray has been told implicitly that this will be his last year, no matter what. Something which I doubt would be so rigid anyway if he surprised us all and overachieved. It still would be in his best interests to do as well as he possibly could for his own future career prospects, something which we have no reason to suspect otherwise and indeed something that based on a very reasonable points haul after 4 games, is something that he is doing. His performance in these last 12 months is more than enough evidence to want him to be sacked, without needing to come to extreme conclusions.

Implies that otherwise, he wouldn't be as averse to relegation if he was here for the longer term. Lots of lovely conspiracies, lets hope that one of the rare benefits of Mowbrays evil plot to maintain his CV is that we dont go down.

I cant accept that Mowbray is actively in preference of wanting kids on loan over more experienced players. He has said so many times that he doesnt like loans in general and that he cannot afford anything else this summer. Why does he keep suggesting that he wants experience then? https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19519380.blackburn-rovers-transfer-search-set-go-wire/ Tried to get Ben Davies, couldnt get close to his wages. Bemoans lack of experience. https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19514336.blackburn-rovers-set-make-first-summer-signing-monday/ “Some of them are really young so here I am talking about looking to bring some experience in but the ones you can get from the clubs we’re loaning from we can’t get anywhere near."

The following is on Sky Sports Transfer Tracker. At that price, and at Stanley, you would think he might fit the bill here, perhaps not though. BRISTOL CITY EYE ‘VARDY-TYPE’ STRIKER Bristol City are in talks to sign Northern Ireland striker Dion Charles - as boss Nigel Pearson eyes a new ‘Jamie Vardy-type’ for the Robins. Pearson is said to see similar characteristics in the Accrington forward in terms of his pace and ability to stretch opposition defences with his running. And Charles’ similar pathway in the game, coming through Non-League football to become an international, also gives him an edge that Pearson admires. Nottingham Forest and Barnsley are also very interested in the 25-year-old who - like Vardy - played for Fleetwood before spells at Fylde, Southport and Halifax. He scored 19 goals in League One last season, as he earned his first cap for Northern Ireland earlier this year, and he has again been called up to Ian Baraclough’s squad for this September’s internationals. Accrington do not want to lose him but are said to value him in the region of £700,000, as he has entered the final year of his contract at the Wham Stadium.

Lots of assumptions and guesses to be fair, for example we wont make as big a loss this year because of the return of fans, we have just sold a major asset too. But as I said, abiding by FFP is Venkys responsibility and the people that they delegate to.

They should always be in control. There is no way that they should run the club in a way whereby it is possible for Mowbray to inflate the wage bill out of proportion, even if we make that massive assumption that he has. They give him the budget every year, he always talks to the owners for his budget, usually in India. There is no evidence or suggestion that he spends beyond that budget, risking the financial future of the club in the process. Mowbray shouldnt be here which is on them again but these theories about them not trusting him to spend money, if that was the case, again there is no logic to use that reason as if they dont trust him, sack him. Again, assuming that it is a strategy to stay safe of FFP is giving them far more credit than they deserve, but we have massively cut the wage bill this summer and made a huge profit on a Mowbray signing. And again, the assumption that they have pleaded for their futures by offering to work on the cheap is a huge one. And again, if that was the case, more fool them for being tricked, but I very much doubt such a conspiracy. I find it incredible that after all of these years, that as this is far from the first mess that we have found ourselves in, that anyone but them get the blame. I personally think that people focus so much on "the Coventrio" because its somewhat putting heads in the sand, maybe the problem is fixable, remove them and maybe there is a bright future. They are the common denominator.

This window is shaping up to be up there with some other horrendous windows under these owners. To lose such a key player in Armstrong as well as plenty of experience and some added quality in Elliott and Harwood Bellis and having to sign so many kids on loan. Perhaps on par with the other window in which we had an embargo and sold Gestede/Cairney but brought in Koita/Akpan/Delfouenso, the window under Coyle in which our centre backs were sold and we had to again make the numbers up with dismal loans, although in Graham, Mulgrew and Williams we did at least get some experience in, and of course the first summer following relegation when it wasnt a summer of scaling back but we just saddled ourselves with expensive rubbish. At least Balaji 'wrote' a statement faking an interest as they run us into the ground, which to be fair has turned some of the deserved wrath away from him. The one thing they are capable of delegating is blame.

I am not sure how much planning you can do when you are given such a low budget that your only option is to beg Premier League teams for kids on loan. Make no mistake, the problem is in India. The "Coventrio" are underperforming symptoms.

If none of them is Balaji Rao, then you are wrong, if we are indeed as skint as it seems.

Dale wouldnt make sense as an Armstrong replacement, different position before you factor in quality and likelihood of stepping up and really having an impact.

We need someone who can score goals from midfield, an attacking midfielder. My suggestion was Stiepermann who was at Norwich. Wharton is injured and we are always walking on egg shells waiting for Ayala to get injured again. We need another centre back.

Not everything is about the long term though. Plus we have such a small squad.

If Chapman heads back out then it would be very strange at this moment. Obviously we are very short in attack, but Poveda aside as an unknown, i would have Chapman in my first 11 at this moment ahead of Dolan, 100%. We arent in a position to let him go at the moment. To have such a definitive idea on whether signings will be the difference between promotion/relegation is very difficult. That would essentially be having confidence before a season that you wont go down and wont go up, and takes any point out of even bothering at all and trying to improve the team.

I certainly have my doubts about him, but he has looked really bright in the last 2 games, on the back of such a good loan spell in League 1. Dolan seems to be seen as so far ahead of Chapman, and I dont really agree with that. Dolan is very limited and raw and in my opinion would not replicate Chapman's form in League 1 last season.

I suspect that if Gallagher, Brereton, Poveda and Dolan all got injured for the full season, that Chapman would still not get plenty of chances.

Unsure what to make of Poveda as very little to go off, we do need individuality from out wide and he has impressed me when I have seen him come off the bench for Leeds, but the question is, can he provide goals and assists? Wouldn't mind playing him wide right on Saturday with Gallagher central and Brereton left, doubt he will though. Chapman would be hard done by though. Still plenty of work to do. A central striker, a left back, a centre back and a central midfielder who can get goals as a minimum I would say.

You said that you didnt know who posted that about various managers. But not everything on this messageboard will be true anyway, its up to us as individuals to believe what we want and to what degree to take what we want with a pinch of salt. Some will be true and will happen, some will be true but might change and not happen, some will be hearsay and people will be merely passing on what they have heard not knowing that it was incorrect info, and I am sure one or two along the years have probably made assumptions that were totally wrong. Chaddy, a few months ago you refused to acknowledge any criticism of Mowbray. You are not of a position to be lecturing anyone on defending Mowbray. I am merely of the opinion that I will blame him for the substantial amount of things that I do know that he is responsible for, the reasons which have meant that I have wanted him sacked for a lot longer than you. Results that caused a regression in our league finish last season, poor signings especially spending far too much on Gallagher and Brereton, illogical and inconsistent tactics, players out of position, plenty of things to blame him for without me needing to resort to conspiracies, theories and assumptions to want him out.

I very much doubt that first sentence in bold happened. And the second sentence in bold is asking for something that simply doesnt and wont happen under Venkys. I dont feel that this summer is his fault, it would have been tricky and frustrating for any manager. I dont have sympathy for him in general though, as I have said numerous times, it is only the incompetence and disinterest of the owners that keep him in a job in the first place. I look back at Owen Coyles summer here. Massive cut backs, huge fire sale, minimal reinvestment although he at least had the ability to bring in senior freebies and had no embargo. But again, wouldnt have had the job if the owners ran the club competently. Like I said, I am not convinced personally, and it is illogical that the funds at that point are no longer available, especially as they would be a fraction of the income and savings made this summer. No matter which way you look at it, not the correct way to run a football club.

Who were they? Again, if true, managers I suspect regularly decline players they dont want personally, the manager should have the final say. But either way, the assumption was a replacement for Armstrong.

Because they chose to employ and keep in situ these people who should have been fired long ago. I definitely dont put the blame of FFP and embargo down to Mowbray, he is a football manager. (And not a good one) The owners have to put so much in to cover losses because they don't have the competence and the interest to put the time in and delegate to the right people to avoid incurring unavoidably high losses in the first place, as you touch on. I have never suggested that we spend wrecklessly, spend to go into embargo, that we overspend, this is all a straw man argument. Maybe we will surprise me and sign a permanent replacement for Armstrong for a couple of million. I also would have liked one or two free agents to give some experience. I do not suggest wild spending or indeed anything that you havent suggested yourself. My suggestion would be that if you think that next summer, a new manager under a new structure will come in entrusted with a healthy kitty to spend on new players and this summer is all part of a clever tactical plan, I wouldn't put money on it! I do not believe that Mowbray had money available to spend on a replacement for Armstrong in January, 6 months prior to his potential sale, and chose not to. Same to you @phili and if that is an assumption that has to be made to continue with this line of discussion, then fair enough, count me out. I will continue to blame him for the many things that I feel like I know that he is to blame for, strange tactical decisions, poor results, poor signings etc.

I take the statement in bold regarding Venkys blindly signing off cheques with a large pinch of salt every time. If there was any logic to that theory that you have that Mowbray wanted to wait until the summer to invest, why is that money still not available? What has changed in those last 6 months? Surely that would have only have made our ability to abide by FFP reduce even more had he splashed out on signings in January? Why would Mowbray continuously avoid spending money on players? These conspiracies make no sense. Mowbray is to blame for a lot of things but the financial running of the club and avoidance of FFP is not one of those. How he spends his budget is a different topic. Indeed, the fact that he is even still here is down to those cretins in India. I do not believe any conjecture about him being allowed to invest in January, choosing not to, and then being to blame for not being able to predict that it was a "now or never" situation in January.

So you are implying that Mowbray had the money sat there for a replacement for a player still at the club at that time, 6 months before we received the considerable amount that we did for him, yet chose not to buy anyone? Agreed, we do need experience, 100%. It seems like those twats in India have restricted us to the point that a free agents are beyond our means, not aided by being in embargo when the better free agents got fixed up elsewhere!

It is unrealistic in that none of the considerable savings at all made this summer are to be reinvested it seems, Mowbray keeps saying that it is (almost exclusively, maybe we will be pleasantly surprised but I doubt it) a case of asking the big clubs to lend us kids on heavily sponsored deals. I refuse to accept that in a summer that we have brought a considerable profit on a Mowbray signing, and have made a huge saving on the wage budget, that such restrictive (essentially to the point of being non-existent) budgets to replace those players are necessary. FFP is not an excuse, because all I am asking for is moderate spending of a fraction of that money. The taps have been turned off, the embargo was unnecessary, yet people still don't seem to hold the owners responsible. You repeatedly ask me for names of signings, I honestly havent got a clue. I have specifically said that I wouldn't want Wickham here. You could also have said the same about Jack Byrne who was at Man City, Samuelsen who was at West Ham, Stephen Hendrie was at West Ham, Branthwaite is at Everton, Kasey Palmer was at Chelsea, Todd Kane was at Chelsea, they were all shit. That isnt me saying that Poveda and Clarkson will not be any good, but merely being contracted to a big team does not make you a good player.