roversfan99

Would you not acknowledge though that putting aside the increase in value of another half season here, which you think would be nominal, and the lack of under 21 appearances. That the summer transfer window is a totally different animal. Clubs unwilling to spend at the end of a January window in which teams are thinking more short term and Premier League clubs seldom spend much in that window. Therefore, more clubs very well may have been willing to bid in the summer, driving the price up.

So purely by accepting the job, as someone who had been out of work for a year, Ismael is automatically a yes man? So whoever came in would have been a yes man? The blame lies with Venkys. Their lapdogs carry out their objective of slashing at the budget to keep them happy and of course they carry blame to an extent but you take them out of the picture and the same thing would likely happen.

You overlook that the summer window is naturally far busier than a rushed deal at the end of January. I dont get why you are so insistent that the potential clubs bidding for him come the summer may not have changed/increased.

Eustace was an employee. Ismael is an employee. Neither had/have any attachment beyond that. Eustace said and acted in that way to create a strong team spirit which he did and led to very good results. The only reason youd look back and say he was wrong to do that is if you feel jilted as if hes an ex lover. You keep patronisingly saying "did you not see that" as if your opinions are matter of fact and im an idiot for not seeing it the same way. After the quick 2 goals, Derby then were only interested in sitting in and making it difficult for us. Sanderson didnt settle us down, he isnt very good and he should have cost us a third with a dreadful mistake. Going to a back 3 just led us lots of possession in non dangerous areas, and with an imbalance of a back 3 of right footers and Ribeiro naturally inclined to come inside. That to me is poor tactics by the manager.

You are naive to the point of parody. Whatever assurances hes been given, they wont be fulfilled.

We historically drop like a stone and get numerous poor results at this point in the season due to having a lack of depth and quality and also a lack of mental strength. I wouldnt "expect" a reaction. History tells us to expect to be disappointed. Is it 4 wins in 16 or 17 now?

Im not sure changing the formation was the right thing to do although options were limited. They were 2 up, they were always going to sit in and protect it regardless of our formation. As it unravelled, it just meant that our back 3 had loads of the ball passing sideways. The balance wasnt right with 3 right footers and it meant bringing Sanderson on who is really poor and nearly cost us a goal. Hyam often had the ball in the left channel and had to come inside.

Yes, we was right to say we are a family, say we are all one and bang the Rovers badge. He successfully had the players giving every last drop of effort for him during his employment here and that led to us being well above where anyone expected. Things like that helped to create a great team spirit, a united group and a seige mentality. I hate to break it to you but Rovers mean nothing more to Ismael than a job either. Or any other manager. Ismael is now the man whereby all criticism is diverted in this instance to the players yesterday. Ismael is beyond reproach, he cant be criticised and only the players (who do deserve criticism, they were shit) and you will go out of your way to shoot down those who dare to question him. Eustace is now the latest suffering the chaddy jilted lover routine. Ismael when he goes will also see his media comments picked apart, his tactics criticised only retrospectively and you will move onto the next one.

Is the right thing to continue to work for employers who dont listen to you, dont back you, renege on promises to you and dont share your ambition?

Pears isnt just a standard example of modern goalkeeping and obviously all keepers make mistakes. Hes particularly bad. He has regular spells of making a mistake costing a goal in each game.

Do clubs base the value of a youngster on how many under 21 caps they have?

Obviously it was abnormal in terms of around it but on the pitch it was still the same game. For us we had a particularly bad season under Mowbray, it was his bad season here but interestingly you didnt write it off as a COVID season. They finished 5th in the Championship, that is Barnsley in the play offs. Your friend might well "have played at a decent level" but it means nothing if he thinks that (regardless of style) season was shocking. Even you wouldnt be that hyperbolic. Maybe he is bitter that he then left.

How was he lucky purely because it was COVID? What does that even mean? Why is it relevant that your mate played a high level of football? He finished 5th with Barnsley, if your friend is half as hyperbolic as you then maybe hes lost all sense of reason too because that was a huge overachievement. His general record is underwhelming especially post that spell, but it doesnt mean that in that specific season he didnt do well. And the stuff about him being a yes man. He has been here for less than 2 weeks so how can you have gathered that?

Theres certainly been no bounce and I am far from convinced by his appointment. But come on. I know you love an overreaction and hyperbole but Ismael out and after less 2 weeks hes already a yes man? Behave. And if one player will not be disheartened by his appointment, its Brittain under who he really improved his reputation in that excellent season they had at Barnsley. We were in dreadful form even at the end of Eustace's reign. No matter who the manager is, this happens because of the owners and how they run the club. I was underwhelmed by the appointment (when he was linked you was lauding his stats from wikipedia!) and have been very disappointed in the first 2 games. But lets not go overboard.

Dismal, gutless performance today, the first 7 minutes were obviously embarassing but the second half was arguably worse. Never did we ever even look remotely capable of threatening an equaliser, so slow, lacking in direction, cowardly and lacking urgency. Play off chances gone and I think all but 1 agree with that. Its a similar story. We had an 11 playing pretty much every week that got us into a strong position built on a 6 game run. Post christmas, injuries hit, form cant be sustained, the mental fragility returns and we have another terrible January. This time topped off by the manager who had this team punching above its weight who had enough and now we have a new manager sacked in his last 2 jobs trying to wing it so close to the season end. Some of the standouts (not in a good way) have been mentioned although no one was good. Pears is an absolute joke but will be number 1 next season no matter what. I thought Carter was really poor too, hes seen for some reason as a sellable asset but he is so inconsistent (moreso than Hyam) and has had a few bad injures. He can be really good on his day but he has also had spells of poor form and is very cumbersome. Britain has been one of our best players this season but had a stinker and could do nothing right. Travis has been badly off colour since his injury. Sanderson is an absolute bombscare, no wonder a League 1 side didnt want him. And no wonder a soon to be relegated side was happy to lend us Woodrow and laughed at us, terrible. Cozier Duberry is a waste of time too. Ismael has a drab persona and there has been no new manager bounce and if we put that performance in after a full week on the training pitch then its a big worry.

Why would they purely based on a playing career? And it isnt enough to sustain a successful managerial career. Big name former players have often got jobs presumably partly based on that assumption and its gone wrong. Surely players would have run through brick walls for Rooney? Gerrard comes across as a person totally different to how he played.

They understandably scoffed because his managerial record to date is crap but hes done very well so far at Coventry. I dont get how its relevant in terms of Gerrard though. People like to categorize them together because of the comparisons as players. Totally different people and managers.

Cant afford to do anything but win.

Also, the fact that European games being played midweek (which will obviously be the way to fit the games into the calendar) are the ones that chaddy is slagging off backs up the theory that because he has Sky he wont say a bad word about anything relating to how they move games, but anything on TNT sports deserves stick.

I dont even get why Sky want to show some of the games they are moving. Most TV viewers including places like pubs will go for Forest v City. Coventry v Stoke on Sky Sports main channel might have a reasonable viewing but aside from that, who aside from those teams fans are watching the other games? Which lunatics would actively choose Reading V Crawley or Walsall v Grimsby?

It happened last time, there was initial disdain towards those who deserve it and a general realisation that under these owners we will never thrive. Fast forward a few weeks and Tomasson seemed to go from being lauded for speaking out to a traitor. Albeit he obviously wasnt as relevant in Championship terms as he went off to Sweden. People havent learnt even though its happened again.

Also, this idea that we have moved away from every game being at 3pm. Its not as binary as that. Theres moving a few games. And theres moving quite as many as we see today. Theres usually one or sometimes 2 on Friday, 8 on Saturday dinner, 1 on Saturday evening, usually 2 Premier League and 1 Championship on a Sunday and then maybe one on a Monday. So maybe 14 games moved, 8 of which are all at the same time. It might be the "best league in the World" (straight from the Sky propaganda machine) but it doesnt sit right prioritising people in other countries over people who are going to the game.

But we forced him out the door at the end of the January window desperately. So you have: - desperation to sell - selling in the January window where teams dont do the bulk of their business - selling at the end of an already shorter window so time pressured - he hasnt played as much as he would have done had we waited until at least the summer All of them factors caused him to be sold for less than we could have got for him. I dont get the obsession around England under 21s. Archie Gray had barely played for them before his transfer to Spurs.

There might not have been a big queue late in the January window to sign him. That doesnt mean we wouldnt have been able to get a lot more in the summer though or even beyond. Distressed seller pushing him out the door late in the mid season window where you always get less big money deals doesnt mean that if it was the summer, if we wasnt as desperate and if hes further showcased his ability, then we couldnt have got a lot more.

Derby are both dreadful and their confidence is on the floor. Playing them both and attacking them from the start has to be the way forward.