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And if the keepers are asked publically they will always say how good they are.

I dont have an opinion on whether he is good or not, but players will always praise them. Means absolutely nothing.

So Suhail gets more power and Gestede will essentially be taking over without the PR of having to announce it. Joke club. Until the owners go, everything else is small fry.

I think Japan chose not to select a number of their best players for whatever reason.

And theres now an article saying we have a "verbal" offer to Tyjon that as of yet hasnt led to a new deal. We have a busy 3 weeks or so ahead. Ismael wants 90% of business done by pre season, and as far as I can see, we need a right back, centre back, 2 central midfielders, an attacking midfielder, 2 wingers and a striker. Thats before potential replacements for the players about to enter their final year. Ismael said he wanted 6 or 7 and that was when we assumed Batth and Weimann were staying. With our well run club, I am sure that we will have 7 of those 8 players all ready to go for pre season to satisfy Ismael, and deals for Tronstad, Travis and Brittain all sorted as after all, we couldnt possibly offer them anything mid season. Seems like on that Sagnan, 2 weeks after saying we were in advanced talks. Jackson only ever occasionally mentions it and just repeats that he has reported that. No suggestion that anything has or will happen on that.

If only we had owners like that. Although they can fuck off with their idea to play domestic games abroad. It will happen though sooner rather than later.

Im not sure he does look capable to be a regular. He is a midfielder, he started one game at right back and got sent off. Mind you, this club dont care about capability.

Where did he say this?

Both Poku and Jade Jones will require compensation, will have lots of interest and Peterborough are hard to deal with.

2 names to write off then.

I am not criticising the academy or individual players. I am criticising the club for setting arbitary targets which I feel creates a conflict of interest, and am also criticising the club for putting an unrealistic burden on producing players that are capable of playing in the Championship. All for the purpose of saving money. You've taken your own interpretation of Gestede's messages in your usual blinkered way and have assumed its all part of a viable and logical plan. You've also not acknowledged the reasons why we had so many academy minutes 2 seasons ago. One now departed special talent and also a lack of depth to the point where we nearly went down.

I read that Glasner said the week after that Wharton was sleeping in the afternoons for hours at a time which was very unusual for him.

Actually, its not a target but its all part of a great plan whereby players will only play those minutes when they are ready and 3 selected players are 100% ready to play that many minutes based on very brief cameos. And if you doubt this, you must want the academy shutting down. We were at those numbers before due to 2 reasons. One special once in a generation talent, no longer at the club. And budget cuts meaning that sub par players ended up playing far too much and we ended up nearly going down.

I never said it was a fact, but its a fair assumption shared by most. Easy to say that hes best off staying when you cant look past your personal bias. If we arent offering him a competitive wage and he can earn significantly more elsewhere, at a club with actual ambition, it would be a strange decision to avoid that sort of challenge in favour of staying comfortable at a club with no ambition of promotion.

We used to give over 2,000 minutes to under 23 academy graduates and we "want to go back to that model." Not factoring in that in the season before last. We had a special talent in Adam Wharton who we have since pushed out of the door. And we also were dishing out too many minutes to players like Garrett and Leonard in a terrible overall season because of cut backs.

It wont stop us trying even in years where that quality isnt there because we have targets to hit and ultimately money to save.

No, I don't know for sure. But its a pretty fair assumption and one shared by a lot of people. Hence why nothing he has been offered has been satisfactory enough to get him to sign. His best move wouldnt be to stay here if he feels that the offer is poor, and if other clubs are offering much more competitive wages. Hes also seen here repeated times that even if the club starts a season really strongly, the owners lack any ambition to actually achieve anything so it repeatedly crumbles post christmas.

He has set a target. 2 or 3 new academy players every season is a huge and probably unrealistic. Some years the well will be dry.

Mccoist is ok but Ferdinand has always been a dreadful commentator/pundit. Lets be honest, any commentator was bound to "fawn" over that PSG team. To win a Champions League final 5 nil and play such incredible football, if ever there was a performance worthy of so much praise then that was it. The likes of Doue, Dembele, Kvaratskelia etc are unbelievable. But I just find Ferdinand and some of the weird shit he comes out with to be intolerable. As you say, thank god he is leaving.

As still a young player, "I dont think I can ever play at the top level and I have settled for a career of mediocrity" would neither make a good soundbite, strengthen his negotiating position nor make him very attractive to anyone. If he goes to another Championship player he will definitely get a competitive Championship wage there so it suggests that if that is what he has asked for, its a reasonable request.

Again, I know he said that! I have never once said that he didnt or even that we havent offered him a new contract. Im sure we have. And no, nobody knows the exact wage that was offered, so stop being pedantic. But it was clearly not sufficient enough for him to agree to sign it. Merely offering a player a new deal doesnt make the club automatically blameless. It clearly wasnt a good enough offer.

No one has ever said that we shouldnt. People have suggested that we shouldnt be over reliant on it, setting arbitary targets for minutes played or be bringing/relying on players who arent ready, or too many at once. For some reason still, you cant grasp the difference. My point was that these stupid targets become even harder to meet without seriously jeopardising results if our better youngsters are at high risk of being picked off.

If our best youngsters will just be picked off, it probably makes these targets that Gestede is pushing to give graduates a certain number of minutes even more ridiculous.

I think weve seen enough from how we have been run under Venkys to be able to make a reasonable assumption. Broughton was proactive in terms of getting players to sign new deals, but the players he was able to get signed up tended to be ones that were seemingly pretty easy to do. If you genuinely think that we likely offered Dolan a competitive Championship wage then again I suspect quite a bit of naivety.

I dont think anyone has questioned their running of the football club in isolation. You clearly havent grasped the idea of sportswashing.