roversfan99

You was very consistent with Eustace in not judging him at all until after the summer. The difference was obviously the condition that we didnt go down. Are you the same with Ismael, you may have already given the answer to this/an opinion on him that I have missed so if so apologies. Ie, is it a clean slate come the summer or would you be more open to wanting him out prior?

Im not sure any stranger things have happened in football. This is a club whose owners have totally neglected it for 15 years and a side who subsequently has regularly experienced drastic nosedives post christmas as we are seeing this season with a run of 4 wins in 19. And whose new manager has lost 4 successive games to struggling sides and has displayed continious incompetence. It would probably require winning all 7 games to get into the top 6. I include Leicester's title win and Greece's Euro win in not being stranger things.

Is there a point to which in your opinion, results in these last 7 games could be bad enough for you to want a change in the summer? Ie if we win 0 or 1 of what would be 12 games, would you potentially want him out, or is it a free pass until the summer? It wont happen either way, they wont pay him up, but still.

You arent far from having the same experience as the current one, to be fair.

You are still clearly in the honeymoon stage with Ismael where you are deluding yourself into thinking he might be a good appointment. You wont accept at least publically that he may be a dud. You repeatedly have started to try and criticise former managers in a way you never did during their employment. The squad is undoubtedly limited, as I have said before recruitment has been poor which is unsurprising when the budget is so low and a novice is in charge. But its certainly better than 4 losses to 4 strugglers. Yes Eustace sometimes lost to struggling sides but not every single time like Ismael. We beat Derby this season at home, we beat Portsmouth this season, we won at Hull this season, we beat Oxford this season, we beat Luton this season, all of these were under Eustace. We also beat Plymouth under Lowe. Had we say won 2 and lost 2 of the last 4, people may have still been frustrated, but prior inconsistencies against lower clubs could be raised. To not get a single point goes beyond that, and invalidates that point. You keep mentioning what he wants to do with his style but thats not a style we are seeing. We arent creating more chances passing it, unsurprising as our team doesnt suit that. A stat I have just read, the lowest shots on target per game this season is Plymouth with 3. Under Ismael, we have had 12 shots on target in 5 games, so 2.4 per game. He had 2 weeks to work with the squad and we looked just as bad yesterday. The team looks disjointed, lacking an identity, doesnt look like it knows what the manager wants from them. You are the only one who sees any green shoots because you base his management on what he says he wants to do rather than what you see. And we dont NEED to win the next game. Its meaningless. Ismael has ensured that he obliterated any chance of the play offs, he took over with us in them and after 4 games the chances were over, they definitely are after 5 games. We wont go down as we had enough points before he came in so there is nothing to play for. The atmosphere will likely be toxic, its free reign for people to show their displeasure now there is nothing to play for.

We never at any point looked like we had a chance of equalising. Same old story.

So I am guessing that you are still 100% behind Ismael and think he is still the right man for the job. He might want us to have more possession to create more chances, we arent creating more and even after 2 weeks on the training pitch we looked just as bad if not worse. Do you really think this set of players is technically capable of dominating the ball successfully and winning games doing it? And have you found any positives in Ismael's first 5 games to cling on to? The players dont seem to have a clue what they are doing. Yes, Cauley Woodrow starting and as the main striker was bizarre. Its not the first time hes picked a weird team. Its also certainly not the first time we have failed to get any points against struggling sides under him, in fact thats 4 times in a row. Unacceptable, indefensible, a crap manager who we are now stuck with. And also an arrogant tosser who cant be arsed to face fans who have paid hard earned money and wasted their Saturday travelling so far. Eustace won 45 points from 31 games, Lowe 6 from 3 games, Ismael 1 from 5. Hes not the main problem, Venkys are. But hes a poor manager picked in desperation after 2 talented managers decided understandably that they couldnt be arsed working in these conditions anymore. Im guessing in your head, Ismael is still the right man and we can still make the play offs.

We are 63 points worse off than he has predicted. Surprised he isnt more critical.

We havent played any specific style under this clown. Just slow, passive, tedious shite. Revert back to criticising previous managers though, I am guessing you arent concerned that we may have just employed a shit manager on a long term deal as you cant bare to see the reality in front of you.

If thats the result of Ismael having 2 weeks to work with the team then that says it all. The French Owen Coyle picking a weird team again and never did we look like scoring. Even if we had got a below par points tally from 4 struggling sides then we would still have an outside chance of the play offs. To get absolutely nothing is extraordinarily bad. Ive seen enough to see why all of the fans of his previous 2 clubs who sacked him hated him so much. The talk this week has been about deflecting the anger away from the team. Not sure they even deserve it. Passionless wasters.

His usually excellent passing has been poor but its his off the ball play and his tackling that is his big weakness. Tomasson mentioned that here. Such a talented player but still big areas to improve.

Its this willing and able to inject £20m a season in that I dont get. It makes out as if its done out of anything other than necessity to cover costs. They will have to "pump money in" each year going forward because like any Championship club we spend more than we receive. They had been intent solely on reducing losses even in the years before the court case. Selling Armstrong and not reinvesting anything was a similar example. I dont get why you make out as if they were chucking in money prior the court case as some sort of attempt to progress the club, it was merely to pay the bills which even then were kept as low as possible. The only difference post court case is that the primary objective of reducing losses has been actioned even more aggressively and it happened to coincide with Wharton being ripe for a sale.

They have never been useful. They have to offset losses like the majority of Championship owners but they have not been allowing us to improve the squad for a number of years, well before the court case. The only reason they didnt put in money in the last financial year was not because of the court case. It was because for them we had a fortunate one off sellable asset that meant that we actually kept a small profit. This financial year, they will have to put something in to offset the loss again. Would you be happy for them to stay if the court case ended and they reverted back to what you perceive them to have been like before it started in the summer of 2023?

I look forward to roverandout coming on saying that Latvia arent a bad side later on.

Yes, it is a bad thing. Dilutes the quality and also makes it asymmetrical where you remove any jeopardy by having 3rd place teams going through groups.

Is that your token response now whenever a question is asked that you know you cant answer, in this case because there is an inconsistency in your logic? If Hedges' worth is proven because managers pick him, surely so is Pears' worth? IMO, both have played so much simply as a symptom of our lack of budget and poor recruitment over a number of years. Every window we call for "a new number 1" and a "pacy winger." Offers hard work and is a team player. They should be a given. Versatile? Equally ineffective in a few positions. And scores "the odd goal!" You are stretching it there, literally one this season, one last. Youve literally listed goalscoring as one of his strengths.

There should be pre qualifiers. And on a seperate note, they shouldnt have increased the size of the World Cup to 48 teams and the Euros to 24 teams. As you said, harder not to qualify.

How is there pressure? From who?

Tough game tonight against a side ranked lower than Madagascar and Tajikstan. Pointless game.

Those same managers keep picking Pears. So based on your logic we shouldnt want him replaced, shouldnt focus on what he cant do and should see that they must see him as a good player?

Repeatedly picked in a position that is symptomatic of the lack of budget and poor recruitment over a number of years. Hence why people calling for "pacey wingers" has become a running joke. Hes a wide man who doesnt score, doesnt create, cant take on his full back, is slow and his decision making is poor. Might be a nice guy and might work hard but thats not enough. Some make out as if hes a brilliant player off the ball but I dont even think hes that.

Wing wizard Ryan Hedges is back? Maybe that play off push isnt as dead as we thought.

Dont forget our record away at promoted sides and its really difficult to look past a home win.

It would be best for him to leave permanently in the summer if anyone wants him in the lower leagues. He looked out of his depth last season which considering his age there certainly was no shame in, but hes struggled to get minutes even in League 1 and now League 2. I cant see him making it at this level similar to Markanday. Probably more chance of him and Buckley being our first choice midfield next season though knowing our owners.

Doesnt change anything that I said. Our negotiating position was weak because we was desperate to sell ASAP.