Paul Mellelieu

BTW, can any window be more "humiliating" than signing and not signing Roy Keane? Ot missing out on Zidane? Or the Polish centre forward?

Who know's if any of this gossip is true?

Mulgrew's exit, although cheered on by some here could have a real impact on squad morale, as Glenn suggests above. Mulgrew has been a key fixture in the squad for three years and his leaving under these circumstances is worrying.

defence

Two plus a keeper.

Sharpe says deal, "not certain."

Never come across a Sancere from Bordeaux.

I'm not defending Mulgrew, but this kind of "stat" doesn't tell a real story. It's just a bit daft.

He said he needs experience of first team football so that he can return to EP as better player. He did it in a rather clumsy way, but now he hates young players.

I try to take a balanced view. Mowbray has made mistakes, as all managers do, and will make more I'm sure. But suggesting that we doesn't give young players a chance, when I believe we had one of the youngest teams last season beggars belief.

Raya isn't good enough, Travis (although slightly overrated on the Forum) is in first team and Nyambe will return I'm sure. £3m academy giving us a number of other players around the first team. Really you just bend the facts to suit your anti-TM agenda.

Raya, Nyambe, Travis etc all in first team set ups. Terrible way to treat 'em.

Four.

For the pedants in the room I added a reference to the squad, because that was the context of the discussion, ie we hadn't added defenders to the squad.

Someone mentioned Derby - I mentioned that squad that took four points from them.

That makes no sense.

The same squad.

With the same defence we got four points from Derby.

Ok, you're right.

It's not an either/or.

Yes, but Dack eta, must play better in the final third.

Johnson played well.

My point is that we had lots of possession, so we shouldn't the attackers off the hook too. Not a difficult line of argument to follow.

If attacking players don't create chances, then we won't score.

Which bit?