Two plus a keeper.

Sharpe says deal, "not certain."

Never come across a Sancere from Bordeaux.

I'm not defending Mulgrew, but this kind of "stat" doesn't tell a real story. It's just a bit daft.

He said he needs experience of first team football so that he can return to EP as better player. He did it in a rather clumsy way, but now he hates young players.

I try to take a balanced view. Mowbray has made mistakes, as all managers do, and will make more I'm sure. But suggesting that we doesn't give young players a chance, when I believe we had one of the youngest teams last season beggars belief.

Raya isn't good enough, Travis (although slightly overrated on the Forum) is in first team and Nyambe will return I'm sure. £3m academy giving us a number of other players around the first team. Really you just bend the facts to suit your anti-TM agenda.

Raya, Nyambe, Travis etc all in first team set ups. Terrible way to treat 'em.

Four.

For the pedants in the room I added a reference to the squad, because that was the context of the discussion, ie we hadn't added defenders to the squad.

Someone mentioned Derby - I mentioned that squad that took four points from them.

That makes no sense.

The same squad.

With the same defence we got four points from Derby.

Ok, you're right.

It's not an either/or.

Yes, but Dack eta, must play better in the final third.

Johnson played well.

My point is that we had lots of possession, so we shouldn't the attackers off the hook too. Not a difficult line of argument to follow.

If attacking players don't create chances, then we won't score.

Which bit?

A disappointing performance. We had the upper hand all game but couldn't turn possession into goals. Some responsibility must be taken by the provider quartet of Dack, Armstrong, Downing and Travis. Gallagher, on this showing has work to do. The keeper looks okay, nothing more, but the fullback areas are really where we struggle. After a frustrating first half a lucky goal had in poll position for 20 minutes, when a Rovers' second looked inevitable. Poor defending and the game was over.

What a strange response.

Rothwell at fault for the corner?

1/92 into the season... anyway, of the newbees both Johnson and Downing have looked like good investments. Walton didn't seem at mistake for the goal and Gallagher looked ok. Dack, Travis and Armstrong were below par of three of the back four looked poor.