Personally I feel we're scraping the bottom of an extremely deep barrel with these signings but you're right, have to give them a chance etc etc. On the other hand just because certain players who might not have looked very promising when they were signed last year might have exceeded expectations, doesn't mean that this year's seemingly uninspiring batch will do the same.

Or more likely considering he is one of many players in recent years that have not signed new deals, that we aren't paying market rate.

The way Dolan talks about himself, he clearly rates himself more than anyone on here does. As such I dare say he’s asking for a pretty hefty contract. He’s clearly close to his family so pretty sure he’d want to stay in the area, his problem might be a lack of offers though, I can’t see any north west teams championship and above being interested.

Whilst I agree id still take the stance on if Iv been wrong about players before, I wouldn’t necessarily continue to make the same judgement but that’s me of course and yes my post was specifically aimed at mercer

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What has what people said last summer about Weimann and Batth got anything to do with that question?! Batth in particular did do well, and thus both leave holes we seemingly didn't expect to have to fill. What people posted on here when they signed months before Ismael joined is totally irrelevant. Ismael wanted 90% of business done by now, his words, so with 2 in, 2 more out than expected and still none of the key players' futures resolved, I suspect he probably isn't overly happy.

Losing, not loosing. Lose, not win, loose, not tight.

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If these posts were aimed specifically at Mercer, then that is fair. He is beyond parody. As you said, people should be able to say they like/don't like a signing, as long as they change that opinion if they are wrong.

I’ve just spat my drink out, bravo Old Codger, funny 😂

He didn't "probably want" a couple more in. He wanted 90% of the business done (realistically or otherwise) by the start of pre season. We have 2 signings in, so probably about 25% and a hell of a lot of uncertainty. He would have expected Batth and Weimann to sign, or at least hope. So we have 2 in, those 2 and Dolan and the expected loanees all departed, and crucially huge question marks over the future of 4 key players with still none tied down or even with offers in front of him. He also will publically endorse every single signing we make.

Where can you see the Affidavit was submitted?

One that he would accept.

It might possibly be true for new signings but it still seems a bit far fetched to me. It's a potential nightmare for team spirit and bonding. You'd have the newbies on sub 10 k, the ones who've had their contracts extended who'll be on something half decent and then the odd one like Cantwell who's allegedly on £25k - £30k p.w. Half of them would be looking at the others thinking, "Why's he on so much more than me?"

Wel, why don't you asked Ismael then but given his comments on Forshaw shows why we sign him on for another 12 months. Ismael wanted pace wide and box to box midfielder which we have signed. Probably wanted another couple in but we got 2 in who matched what he wanted in terms of profile of player for those positions

I never said the reason we haven't renew any contracts was financially driven did I? We don't know. GB tried with Dolan and he was changing at the times but we did offer him a new contract. What is reasonable contract offer for Dolan, what terms would you offer him and length of contract? You are looking Overseas cos the market is one where you can get a championship standard players for good wages and fee just like we don't for many years under a range of different managers. Listened to the Andy Watson with Elliott Jackson, what a great insight and why plenty of clubs do look overseas now

Activity this far? We've signed 2 players, some clubs haven't signed anyone. Whether they'll be any good or not we won't know until they kicked a ball. Before you go and say about loosing Weimann and Baath, like @Emerald Isle Rover said most posters were in uproar when we signed them last year so before passing judgement, let's see, before saying players arnt good enough.

We are in talks with our key players and lets see what happens then, as I said I think Dolan decide to test the free agency 18 months ago. I said my opinion on Eustace and why I think one of important reason was Transfers and how much say he had in transfers. At Derby He has more say in transfers and who they want where at Rovers his role was a head coach who decide from a 3-5 players shortlist who we sign. I have moved on from Eustace era here. I look forward to this summer and who we sign but also what changes Tactically and style Ismael will bring in during pre season. I stand by my Batth's comments and no I wouldn't offered him a 2 year contract. We been burned in the past with Ayala who injuring record wasn't good and Mulgrew who legs went very quickly. A one year contract was right for Batth and Weimann at they aged. I don't see what the major problem is exploring and signing players we want this summer especially when you want pace wide and more athleticism in the team. Rovers started this 2 years ago under GB and JDT with Tronstad, Wahlstead and Sigurdsson signings and we continue this last summer with signings like Ohashi, Toth and Gueye. 10 years we didn't the explore the European market and stay in the domestic market. Plenty of good standard Championship players out there in the European market Yes I am looking forward to this season and seeing how we play, what the team looks and I will be at the first friendly supporting my Rovers team.

The argument is applied when there’s a consistent pattern….mercer has the consistent pattern

There's no way a player like Dolan on a modest current wage is going to say no to a pay rise even of a few grand in favour of staying on the same money for another 18 months so he walks for free. Non of that makes sense unless the loyalty bonus is massive or there is a pre agreement with another club and big pay hike/signing on fee. These are young championship players not multi millionaire Prem academy lads Dolan himself said he was previously in the first team on £300 ish a week. At the very least you'd sign your contract offer under the stipulation of a get out clause or bid trigger so i think it's obvious he was offered no real pay rise worth its salt.

Steady on old chap - Mercer is a stalwart of this message board, and capable of linguistic trapezery sufficient to tie the most eloquent of intellectuals in convoluted knots. Trolls can't do that 😉

No, it obviously should work both ways. But there’s a difference between someone saying they think a player is a good/bad signing and them writing a player off/thinking they’re the next messiah before a ball has been kicked.

What is a reasonable offer for Dolan?

Erm, ok. So we can conclude that the primary reason why we are looking in lesser foreign leagues (often at the bottom of) is for financial reasons. And the reason that we aren't extended contracts is again financially driven. Don't get why Dolan is any different. Had we stuck a reasonable contract offer in front of him, he likely would have signed it. It clearly wasn't a reasonable one.

Not if its only just been introduced in terms of new sigings. In other words regardless of wages now being paid you can't bring in any new ones on over 10k a week. Not a dig at you but i'm amazed this seems to be so difficult to comprehend although obviously it's only a rumour previous experience tells us how things can change here overnight. Then change back again !