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If we don't get 4 points from the next 4 games VI will have a worse record from the same number of games as Owen Coyle... Currently on 33 games, 10 wins and 7 draws. Coyle had 37 games, 11 wins and 8 draws.

Also what are the to football reasons do for our being in Saudi?

To add to this: If you look at the position we finished in during the 80s were were generally in the top six. There were only three seasons where we didn't and one of those years we won a trophy. Playoffs were only introduced in 87 I think and we were in the mix on more than one occasion. We always ended up falling short due to lack of funds but we were always up there challenging to get into the top flight. This notion that we only got into the top division is because of Jack Walker is just some bullshit spread by jealous dingles and southern media who couldn't stand the fact that a small working class northern town was challenging the big city clubs. We were always knocking on the door and trying to get up there. In 1980 (I think) we would have gone up but for Preston being too shit to win a game. Only under venkys have we been deliberately relegated out of the top division and been deliberately prevented from trying to get back. @SuperBrfcmentioned this in a thread about a year ago and I think it is absolutely bang on. This club is too big for venkys and all their hangers on. Where we are is not our level, it is venkys bringing us down to theirs. Don't support them. Don't give them a penny.

Saudi, where everyone is welcome to watch football, unless you're a woman or a gay.

What species do you think plays and watches football? Daleks?

Agree, but to be fair to that profession - administrators and corporate recovery specialists, like the ones appointed at Sheffield W - they’re very skilled at running distressed businesses and would do a much, much better job than Pasha & co (completely different league - we’re talking Prem vs National League here…)😇

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Give it resr RF99. Football decisions should be based on footballing issues and nothing else

A catalog of quite frankly ludicrous posts. But not sure you'll find any worse than those.

Sometimes it’s best to keep your thoughts to yourself.

Shouldn't come into play. Separate issues. Football should be based on footballing issues and thats it. Other always want to bring in non football issues all the time into these situations

Should human rights play a part - WTAF.

From Waggots laid back water treading approach to being run as if by administrators is my take on it. The new finance director, the shadowman with complete day to day power now and his puppet are i'd say running it culturally a lot different than normal. And what a job they are doing, relegation fight, a raft of signings who'll never be worth more than the fees paid and the lowest number of people in the ground on match days since the late 80's. I wonder if Suhail is filling the owners in on these facts ?

Yes, a dreadful human rights record should play a part. The biggest football tournament should simply not be going to countries with human rights records like that. Clearly you share a moral compass with the corrupt FIFA.

Not particularly defending big Mak one way or the other but Cantwell 7 goals, Gueye 8. Frankly, Cantwell is a dick for sniggering and needs to think about his own efforts on goal. Eg that pathetic attempted chip.

Just thought I'd make a list of what are regarded as promising academy players to see if I could make a future Rovers 1st team 11. Pie in the sky I know Any others come to mind that people like arbito have watched ? Honor Pitt. Litherland. Eze. Pates Dunn. Vare Sergeant. Higgins. Powell Joseph

The South America games is based the 100 years anniversary of the world cup. never experience a world cup in South America. The Saudi bid was the only bid for 2034 bid during the process. should Human rights record play any part in Football given its very separate issue or could Football being a full for good Looking very forward to the 2026 world cup still, should be a great tournament

Yep, zombie club –lumbering along, alive but not alive.

Yes agreed here. Long thought some sort of simple leaflet/social media page spelling out ‘facts’ and dispelling myths –directly countering the apologist narrative. Keep it simple, cheap. I’m sure plenty here have the expertise for this –where to distribute ect. Eg. Top 10 myths Myth: Nobody would buy us. Fact: simple debunk Myth: Not our fault regarding weather Fact: Waggot presented plans but board rejected etc etc Or Did you know? Maybe 10 of these OR Top 10 facts about the Raos Top 10 facts about transfers Top 10 facts about Ismael’s record

What ive been told

My last game was one under Eustace (can't remember who) about 2 months before he left. Since then I've held my own personal boycott, I haven't attended a game or purchased any merchandise from the club. Although I can't commit to a ST, I will attend the first game after Venkys sell.

That’s quite a shift. Surely they’d go back to those who have expressed an interest over the years? Pride? Surely there’s no pride in being seen as idiots, repeating the same expensive mistake and trusting the wrong people year after year?

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Cover loads of continents at once so we can get back to Asia and they can rake it in from another wealthy country with a diabolical human rights record.