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If we don't win this match comfortably the manager needs to go.

Did noticed he stepped off from running at them, no point forcing a play in dying minutes. Just felt he wasn't stepping up when he was meant to when their back line did have it toward the middle of the park.

Very odd to see that.

Here we go..the chaddy and roversfan99 love in.🥰

There's no scapegoats, everything is ultimately the fault of our owners. Gueye is a very poor footballer but we've had quite a specific concentration of those in the last 15 years as opposed to the previous 135 years. Danny Murphy, Myles Anderson and so on. I don't think many fans see Gueye as the main issue at the club, he's just a symptom of how we are run.

3-1. No excuses.

A must win. Absolutely no excuses. If he fails to win this, I want Ismael sacked straight after the full time whistle (I want him gone anyway but still)

He's a confidence player and he's also a chaos engine. If you're going to play him he needs to start and you need to be during balls up to him / crossing balls into the box. Asking him to come on for 10 mins to chase hurried clearances upfield and close down multiple CBs on his own is setting him up for failure. He's 6'5" and strong as an ox. He's not a whippet like Ohashi - don't ask them to play the same way. It's not rocket science. And for clarity - I think he's a 10 goal a season striker if you played to his strengths, but he'd have a load of assists (and just generally disrupt the defence and cause chances to break for others).

It actually is partly the officials fault on this occasion as we should have had a corner which was tactically the right thing to do when preserving a lead and they guessed and gave a goal kick. It was so late on the corner would have probably been the last action of the game.

If you don't laugh you will cry. I'm sure lots of comments have been made about the subtitutions, it's nothing new it's been the same all year and years before. A competitive 11 but quality drops after that. The most frustrating thing for me in that last few mins was Millers pointless chip down the line. When you're looking for some experience, game management he just gives the ball away, no one hardly near him, they get the ball and score. At least boot the ball into touch down field if he didn't want it. I know Val has been drilling in the positives to the team but 2 games running, it's hard to see their heads not going down. Interesting to see how long this same 11 can keep the energy up for. 3 huge games coming up with no Sonny or potentially Alebiosu. Got a feeling this week could have been a bad omen for whats to come!

Rovers 4 -1

Well he's not been allowed to play by the manager, so very little. Very difficult to do anything with 5-10 minute cameos.

Same old same old and it'll be somebody else's fault. Rovers 1 Weds 1

That leaves you far too exposed in midfield.

True. I suspect that Gaye would do very well in League 1 and attract offers from Championship clubs the season after. That's if he doesn't go abroad of course.

I hope you take that approach to your own life - you're obviously hugely successful.

No one is saying this is going to be easy, or if they are they need a rethink

VAR isn't the answer but actually getting better officiating, we didn't have these problems 20 years ago when Refs actually ref the games properly Yes a clear penalty, FFS Its yourself finding excuses to not given your own club the right correct decisions I would have gone that way cos of jack Clarke not cos of De Neve

Can I ask what he has contributed this season?

Gueye is the current scapegoat. He can't do anything right on this board.

A case for Jon Stead

I think you meant to say Leif Davis isn’t getting back !

well we have to disagree there cos Leif Davis isn't getting back for me and McKenna said post match he would have want a red if that his side decision

They probably need VAR because you arent going to get a sudden improvement in referee quality. But we need to look closer to home at why we keep throwing away points. Its a club now built on excuses. Hard done by with the potential red card? Yes. (Although not having the Ohashi penalty shout or a corner/goal kick decision at the other end of the pitch) But I am more concerned and focused on our own problems and so should Ismael be. Ribeiro would have made more sense. De Neve is like a few of the Rudy signings absolutely woeful. If Ismael genuinely wanted some of these players then that is especially worrying.

Poor decisions have happened at times i agree. However, it's not the officials fault that we can't defend properly in injury time. Also, the manager has cost us more points at Ewood this season than the officials.