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Apologies - only wading in there because it’s painful for everyone to have an ongoing discussion where one party doesn’t take into account anything put forward from the other side.

Why do we know they "hate us"? Can you cite any examples?

So 6 points made with only one objected to. Still sounds like 5 good reasons the EFL should do the right thing.

This forum really has turned into an ear bashing at times. What happened to the discussions without sniping 😒

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Come on, you know the EFL hate us, all referees are biased against us, and there's a conspiracy against us in general. (Despite the fact the ref awarded us a penalty and reduced our opponents to 10 yesterday) In this instance it would actually help if the EFL threatened to suspend our membership of the League unless we take immediate steps to put temporary measures in place to alleviate the problem pending a permanent solution being carried out in due course. Sadly I dont suppose anything will be done at either end and it will happen again and again.

You only have to look back to the Brum game.

I'm not too concerned about us going down at the moment, based on what I've seen across the league thus far. I think the only reason we'd be in trouble is if we suffered a number of serious injuries.

Cheers, I'd only seen things saying they could replay it or let it stand, none saying we could potentially just do the right thing and finish the match. When do the authorities do the right thing though.

Completely disagree. The game was nowhere near "done and dusted" at 1-0 with potentially up to 15 mins to go. If it had been 5-0 with a minute or two to go I'd agree It was very unlucky on the team, but at the end of the day it's the Club's fault for not being willing to spend money on resolving the longstanding drainage problems which we've known about for some time.

Oh I quite agree with you there. I'm still only thinking in the possibly will avoid the drop scenario.

If the game is replayed then it is because that is outlined as the process as per the rules and also that has been the precedent in the past. This idea that the EFL "hate" us is ridiculous and doesnt help. And the game was not done and dusted. A 1 goal lead with 10 minutes plus stoppages is not done.

One imagines it comes down to insurance, liability, etc due to the amount of money involved. If the pitch isn't fit for the purpose of playing then it follows that it would be unreasonable to allow players to try and play on it. Should an injury occur it opens various parties up to serious legal actions. @arbitro gave a good example of this from his personal experience, and you can imagine it'd be significantly magnified at Championship level.

I would be mindful of the ball holding up in the water when players are fully committed to a tackle. Alebiosu went into a sliding challenge yesterday and couldn't stop. Had he caught the Ipswich player it could have resulted in an injury. And the farcical aspect too. The straw that broke the camel's back was when the referee called a halt. An intended pass just stuck in the water.

We wouldnt have a leg to stand on I dont think for the reasons I outlined above.

No problem with abandoning the game. Discussion on that front seems pointless. This said we move on to the consequences. The EFL in all conscience must give us the game anything else is manifestly unfair. 1) The game was done and dusted with only minutes left 2) They were down to 10 men 3) A replay means one extra game in an already overloaded season 4) The potential for injuries to key personal is increased with every extra game played 5) It's an unfair advantage to Ipswich in the table rankings by chalking off a nil points result 6) It's unfair on supporters to fund another game even if entrance is free the travelling and time opportunity cost isn't If the EFL call a replay then it stinks but then again we know they hate us so guess the outcome.

There's no way they can award us 3 points when it's our fault our pitch isn't fit for purpose and the game was only at 1-0 with 10 mins plus injury time to go. If we were 1-0 up at their gaff and the same thing happened, or it was here and we were 5-0 up with a minute to go there would at least be an argument to be had I'd imagine.

I’m suggesting we appeal and seek legal advice rather than forfeit….although I think I’d prefer a forfeit to losing a replay! Could you imagine Liverpool or Man City accepting such an injustice??

I should add: I don't think the decision to stop the game was wrong and it isn't the main issue in the grand scheme of things. Im just not sure a justification for it based on danger is necessarily helpful or appropriate. But I've asked the question because I may be misunderstanding.

So when can we expect a response and result from the EFL how long do these things take? Surely can't take too long to give us 3 points 😄

Have to agree. The clear obvious stall of the ball was enough further ref

It should, but it won't.

If we dont then Ipswich will just be awarded the 3 points. What good does that do us or Ipswich's promotion rivals?

This might have been covered already but, genuine question, what is the "danger" to players in playing out the last 10 minutes of a match 16,000 people have paid to attend, on a pitch where the ball won't bounce or roll? My 16-year-old plays football matches each Sunday on pitches that undulate and contain random holes. Occasionally the pitch, which has no designed drainage, becomes waterlogged during a game. Is that any more or less dangerous? Because they play to the end unless there is lightning. I'm a bit confused by the references to danger.

Yes it was a few years ago. They turned down the funding and it included the pipes underneath. Nothing about the club is a "priority" to these owners. The usual evasion of a direct answer but I am taking that as yes. You think a pitch where the ball was stopping repeatedly in the water, couldnt bounce and had loads of puddles on top of it was fit to play on. If thats your answer then you clearly are incapable of allowing your bias to be put aside when trying to judge things properly. Even Ismael seemingly agreed to the abandonmenment. Ive seen people amidst the frustration suggest unfair solutions or unfair directioning of blame but you seem the only one who actually thought the pitch was ok to play on.