She wants paying…😉

Pasha only really started coming to the FF meetings last season regularly. I'd say he was the most animated I'd seen him at the last meeting, yes. He told me to 'get my facts right' which I was quite surprised at (in reference to JDT & Eustace leaving a year apart for the same reason- no backing). He had no answer when I reminded him that JDT tried to leave the previous summer and the club hadn't let him.....

The plan is cost control. Football is secondary.

Wait till you see his long throw...

The regime isn’t half as clever as they think they are. They thought stripping all fan engagement down to one forum, a forum that historically has been more retail focused (and where they’ve had a measure of control over the proceedings and output) would keep them off the hook … well, guess what, as a voluntary forum that anybody is free to join, the awkward squad from the groups you’ve excluded will just find their way into it anyway and said control is now lost. Never mind ay, Pasha.

What are you talking about, of course there is a plan...... .........to reduce costs!

It’s my coping strategy…(& I think it’s more effective on the radio 😉)

How would this be for controversial? Mafoumbi back to France & a Henriksson & Baradji double signing Swiftly followed by a Travis departure

Unless you believe neither will answer honestly, both @K-Hod and @only2garners could clear this up very quickly. As to why Pasha would do that, my impression of @glen9mullan from on here is he does know how to elicit the response he is after (again - a good thing).

Just on this point. The EFL regulations regarding these meetings are so weak it is very easy for the club to comply.

From what I understand, Pasha took exception at Glen having direct contact with the owners, but perhaps he can clarify that. Why Pasha would do that is open to debate I guess. These original minutes contained lies, according to Glen’s posts, so why is that and is it a one off to save embarrassment, or normal procedure, to keep relationships intact?

Perhaps @K-Hod can confirm whether the outbursts Glen refers to have happened at previous meetings too. It may just be that Glen knows how to ‘push the right buttons’ to get such a reaction. For clarity, I would see the ability to do this as a positive as it can lead (as Glen says it did) to the loss of control leading to the truth coming out.

Excellent post!

Not much left in the tank for there to be much in the way of controversy around a player going. Who is your money on, whose departure would be considered controversial? I'm with you in principle - just interested in hearing your thoughts..

Read what Glen has posted which is pretty damning. Either this is a one off and has been called out, due to people attending, who will challenge those not acting in the best interests of the club, or it’s the norm. Fine for you to leave it there, but fortunately some won’t, as doing nothing, is not an option.

Prediction, we're waiting for a controversial outgoing to be finalised before confirming another incoming

I am pretty certain from the efl handbook that the 25 man squad doesn't come into effect until the end of the window (from memory, the wording is "changes can be made at any time during transfer windows", but hopefully WilsdenRover sees this post and can confirm or correct me.. thanks in advance either way), so for that limited period of time, we have room to bring in more anyway Just my guess at what I think they may be aiming for, I am not not saying it will ultimately be achievable, and I may be wrong of course We wouldn't necessarily have to sell Leonard, Pears & Buckley in order to create room in the squad, loans for them would do, and if Rovers desperately need squad space at the end of the window and are willing to take a hit by paying a hefty portion of their wages, then I would think all 3 could be found temporary homes in League 1 & 2 without much issue

Absolutely pathetic chaddy. Beyond embarrassing.

That is a fabulous shout, ticks a lot of boxes. Young, cheap, doesn’t need ESC spot, big for a fast winger, from a relegated team. Would be happy with Forson. Would also have been okay with Hanley coming back for a year. He is a bit slow but then so was Baath.

Our 2025 John McGinn edition

I wonder, is it compulsory to have a CEO, or can a football club operate without being challenged is such a person is not appointed? Not that I'm overly concerned, either way, because the simple fact is we could appoint a turnip (or swede) and it would still be told what to do and say by the shady folk in the shadows... Come on you root vegetables! SHADY VENKY STOOGES OUT!

Plan 😂 heard it all now, fact is our better players have left without our control because it’s a shit show. Staff have left because it’s a shit show. Managers have left because it’s a shit show. Fans have left because it’s a shit show. Everyone who has left has been replaced cheaper. It’s always everyone else’s fault bar venkys and pasha , they can’t do no wrong 😂😂 if ismael really got what he wanted, we wouldn’t be making a profit.

You know this for fact? No one who attended the FF meeting has blamed O2G Unlike yourself have they? Anyway I've leaving it there IraC.

Maybe these meetings weren't as confrontational previously. Swag was there to just shrug his shoulders and fob people off and the heated exchanges were more with WATR. Seems as though they've now cut off contact with the Trust and there is no more swag so the FF meetings have become the only contact between the fans and club. With the likes of Glen there they're not going to be able to get away with just fobbing folk off with nothing answers and the fact that the shadow man is a complete gutless coward that can't handle any pressure whatsoever has brought up the current situation. Official minutes that show how unprofessional and incompetent these people are will not be something the club wants to put out there. Applying pressure on the shadow man clearly is having an effect. As I said previously, I can actually see a point in time where the club severs all contact with the fans as they simply can't handle the pressure. Even if there's a new CEO put in place, it needs to be demanded that the shadow man is in attendance as he is clearly the one running the show. Keep up the good work all involved 👍

I guess it is now down to the people who were present at the meeting. It seems that we have two versions of the minutes. One version that the club were happy with, but several attendees weren’t and another version, that the club, have now rejected. Perhaps the club, now need to explain, their reasons for rejecting the second version, as the fans, are still in the dark. I haven’t seen either version, but of course the club, do have a responsibility, to meet with the fans and certain things need to be dealt with in order for them to comply with their responsibilities. It appears to me, they they are falling well short of this, but whether they are held to account or not, remains to be seen.