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Minutes should be out once amended and butchered. So around christmas 2026.

I think everybody would take a mid table finish now. Lost our best whole back 4 (admittedly the left back was on loan), our captain, an important goalscorer within the squad and our most productive attacking player. Too much of a churn. As I said at the time and you dismissed as me banging on about it, our inability to sort contracts has dropped us in the shit. Only Championship experience brought in is a centre back from Hull who struggled for regular football in his natural position and a player on loan who has struggled for regular game time and to discover his natural position at 3 different clubs. Also signed a player seemingly not close to being fit to play and obviously are massively short at the back and in other areas. Totally short of proven quality and experience. From what we have seen from the new players that have played, safe to say it will likely be a mixed bag.

he hasn't had a club for over 12 months

Back on 2016 Glen proposed answers to the following from our Shadow man and still we haven’t had clarification but are still in the same position. We know the score and have for years but yet we are still going through the motions!

Gueye out, Connor Wickham in? I'd take that

well you asked the question and I gave you my answer. 2 or 3 is joke from you given you don't know how many of the new signings will be hit or miss all depend how quickly the new players settle in and perform and understanding the league. I would take mid table finish now and that what I expected after so many new signings and losing some key players

As high as 5 seems generous. I would have it at 2 or 3. Do you still think top half/top 6? I suspect we are bang in a dogfight that im not sure that we are equipped to handle.

What about Stones, Walker and Shaw who you have missed from your comparison, who were all key parts of a solid defence whose bodies are now failing them? Our defence is now James, Guehi, Burn and Lewis Skelly. A huge difference. Although to be fair, in those Euros we again got a fortunate path to the final but thats a seperate argument. The foundations of the team over the last 7 or 8 years has now gone.

You always say that to be fair.

I know I'm going to get some stick from you. But this is a better squad than 2021. Trippier is nowhere near james' level. Ghuei is better than Maguire. Its not the squad it's tuchel who isn't up to it

any more news on Waggott's replacement and how close are we to appointment?

Raya sprung to mind, can’t think of many others.

These games are a waste of time for everyone involved. Just ones to get out of the way. Mind you, its very poor to only score 3 in 2 against these no hopers. The rationale behind Tuchel's appointment (especially considering contract length) seems to be to get someone proven as a final push now the foundations are built. Its totally flawed. Our chance of winning a major competition in the immediate future seem to have almost certainly passed. A number of key players from those teams are no longer what they were. Walker, a spent force. Stones, a spent force. Shaw, a spent force. Trippier, retired. Even Maguire and Henderson, similar. The squad is massively inferior, yes we missed a few players but the talented players we have all play in the same position so the attack is so imbalanced too. A similar side to the one tonight would be swatted aside by a number of countries. Dan Burn is not a top player.

We can't sell or Loan Gueye out when we can't sign a replacement I can understand that he isn't happy not playing but until the January he has to stay here. I thought Ismael would suit Gueye but I was 100% wrong,

I had it on in the background, as I did a bit of work on the laptop - I think I must have glanced at the telly 3-4 times in the 90 minutes. Dreadful, turgid stuff. Outside of major tournaments, international football is the absolute pits.

20th of October

around 5 I would say given we didn't proper replacement for Hyam, had we sign an experience championship centre back then it would have been 7 out of 10. I would just say I think we got to properly judge these signings we don't know enough or seen play enough to see whether they will be hit or miss. Gutted to be honest, very good championship centre back but not to replace him properly is a very bad move. We will miss him Peterborough have a summer of rebuilding their squad but they have backed Ferguson with signings. It will take time to adjust but they will be mid table this season

Don't agree. We've got a great squad but as usual a shit coach

When is the next fans forum meeting ?

I saw nothing of what tuchel wants tactically. I just saw the same shit we saw under Southgate pass sideways backwards

Have we had any young players remotely ‘make it’ to some degree in our first team who were on loan at non-league level in their 20’s? Or indeed at any age 18+ (Genuine question, I can’t think of any)

Didn't we offer David Lowe this role but wasn't he interested in that role? I actually thought it was ideal role for him given his background in youth development and experience Mike, we have been looking for a loan manager for around 12 months.

Hard to argue with you on your points. Rhodes understand how important it is for young players to get the right loans and last season we witness Jake Garrett get 2 loans where he didn't play and his development stopped. That's what I will judging Rhodes is the kind of loans he gets our young players and whether they are playing enough to develop

Well I am no fan of Tuchel and don't think he should have been appointed as England National head coach, The time to proper judge him is the world cup not these qualifiers. On today's performance, you got more of sense of what Tuchel wants tactically but these games are difficult cos Andorra will just defend and defend without trying to offer much going forward. Our best player was Elliott Anderson who shown what you want from your number 6 and what his role is.

Glen, I recall there being an important point revealed at number two on the first letter. Could you please put that part on here too? I think it would be helpful to remind people. It mentioned there being a contract between Venky's and Crescendo Sports Ltd of Brunei, as well as the contract with Kentaro in point 1. Crescendo would also provide "consultancy services" on the takeover, not too dissimilar to Kentaro. There was a comment in there about the Venky's-Crescendo agreement coming to an end as soon as the takeover completed. However, there is nothing solid to say this agreement has ended in reality. I don't know if anybody has ever chased this up or if the Authorities ever had confirmation of the Crescendo agreement ending. I think this could be a key part in the whole sorry tale. To summarise, we are supposed to believe that: 1) Venky's-Kentaro fell out with one another, settled out of court and that arrangement subsequently came to an end. 2) The Venky's-Crescendo agreement came to an end as soon as the takeover was completed in November 2010. I am not so sure on both counts, but that's just my opinion. Kean leaves the club in 2012 and immediately heads for Brunei? Some coincidence, that. We could do with those two points being put to the shadow man for clarification. Now that's the kind of transparency I want to see from those at the club.