This is where we disagree. Yeah he's not achieved anything but neither have any of the squad. If all the EFL moved on players who didn't contribute to milestones or trophy wins you'd have full squad turnover year on year. He was one of our best players, well loved and was a great captain. If you disagree with that fair enough but I absolutely think he was worth retaining.

It's a new team another new era. Success will be Ismaël still being here in three years and his team and results constantly improving.

JDT had a plan as did JE. Achieved nothing? Right. And did it with hands tied behind backs? Expect miracles then with this new plan.

Likeable managers but very streaky and inconsistent which cost us in the end. 7th or 21st... Still achieved nothing. No prizes for losers. I'm not convinced about this fella but fuck it, he/they've got a plan... Let's find out how good or bad it is.

Club bruges are a bigger club than rangers or celtic

Wonderful

Where has this suggestion that he wanted £30k come from?

Re the clearing of the old guard (who now appear to have been an impediment to success), will the agents be next?

I'm not sure what he was on but an extra 10k for what? Is he worth it? What did he do to warrant it? Wasn't good enough for Ipswich and at 28 is as good as he'll ever be. He's been offered massive money elsewhere and he's gone... Off you fuck, tata, enjoy Derby... End of story.

Is there anybody good enough to take advantage of the old firm in turmoil this season and win the league or will it be back to normal in a couple of months time.

I find this a bit distasteful really (to us fans and the ‘real’ part of the club). If you’ve been there as long as she has, she surely knows what we as fans are going through, and also other long serving members of staff. So instead of that bitter little line at the end, which is against everything at the club (including us fans), actually call out the people that are making you feel that way. But of course, nobody who has left the club under Venkys/Anderson/Pasha has ever had the spine to actually do that

So the fact that none of the players we wanted to keep have all refused new deals was just because we didnt see value in any of them? Why did we (eventually) offer contracts to them at all?

Never won enough though. They also made plenty of excuses, JDT especially.

Did he say that he wasnt doing his utmost for the club he was working for? Like with the theory that he actively didnt want promotion, which makes no sense. Your imagination runs wild when Mowbray is involved.

Maybe because the people deciding the wages thought he wasn’t worth what he wanted or could get elsewhere? Similarly to Brittain and Dolan?

JDT and Eustace did win football matches, I have serious doubts that the present incumbent will,, with his 6.ft plus athletes!

I wouldn't bet on it

Thats not the case. Travis hasnt been let go as part of aggressive attempts to make us better. We wanted him to stay, like with any of our better players we couldnt get him to sign a new deal so have had to replace him with someone who will take a smaller wage.

Judging by the insanely high turnover of non playing staff, the Club would seem to be a fairly toxic environment to work in. I think Id rather take her word for it as someone who's worked there rather than any of us on here who haven't. Think it was Glen who said employees aren't valued at the Club and there's little opportunity for pay rises or advancement. Similarly with Head Coaches and playing staff, Suhail doesn't seem to value in the least anyone who has done particularly well for us. The attitude isn't "We need to keep hold of this fella at all costs" it seems to be "We'll just get someone else in and we'll probably be able to get them to do it cheaper".

People seemingly don’t understand that giving one player a big wage rise generally means everyone wants one too. I also am one of the few seemingly who doesn’t want more money off the Rao’s, I can’t get my head round the majority position here which is “fuck off venkys / Spend more money Venkys”… to me they are contradictions. Only time will tell on the replacements, but I’m with you on this one - the results we’ve had with Dolan, Travis, Brittain etc never got us further than outside the playoffs. So why give them a pay rise?

Dack is the only one for me really since the end of the Big Sam era. He played the biggest part in us not rotting away in league 1 and was a joy to watch at times as well.

It's beginning to look like they didn't want to...

It's all reminiscent of your first bash on Championship Manager. Take over Rovers, get shut of a few high earners for a few quid, sign a few foreign unknowns for buttons to fill the squad - exciting times. Lose half of your friendlies, new signings average 5 or 6/10 every game, go 5 games without a win, flirt with the bottom 3 and then don't save and start again.

Surely this time the penny will finally drop with the ' experts' that he is a total fraud?