Alan Nixon

[RevidgeBlue]

15 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

I assume that Williams is real, however his trustworthiness, motives, plans, and financial muscle seem to have been questionable. I suspect that he lost any money he may have had in the 2007/08 financial crisis. 

After his Rovers attempt he moved on to the Rochester Rhinos in the USA. Here is an article that quotes him; Williams Rhinos bid.

He never completed his Rhinos takeover. His "friend" or "10's of million of dollars" never materialised. The Rhinos no longer exist.

Edit; it's hard to imagine but Venkys look to have been the best of a truly awful bunch. They competed against a fantasist and an alleged international scam artist. Who was doing the due diligence? Did they propose mugs on purpose so Venkys would look good? 

Again, it seems from that article that no-one over there had ever REALLY heard of him either, from memory I couldnt find any trace of Princeton Global Housing at the time either.

Reliant on a mystery partner again as well.

WUM or if he did actually exist a fantasist imo.

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, speeeeeeedie said:

 

Edit; it's hard to imagine but Venkys look to have been the best of a truly awful bunch. They competed against a fantasist and an alleged international scam artist. Who was doing the due diligence? Did they propose mugs on purpose so Venkys would look good? 

It's amazing that a club of our calibre and pedigree didn't attract one decent owner offer in the years we were up for sale. Just a sequence of various chancers. Amazing.

[Tomphil2]

We were probably up for sale at the worst possible time and even V's were only brought to the table when the price dropped about 20 million.

[Andy]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Again, it seems from that article that no-one over there had ever REALLY heard of him either, from memory I couldnt find any trace of Princeton Global Housing at the time either.

Reliant on a mystery partner again as well.

WUM or if he did actually exist a fantasist imo.

He definitely existed - I can't remember the specifics now, but I tracked him down and exchanged a few emails with him at the time.

But I would suggest that he fell within the 'fantasist' bracket more than anything.

[Roverthechimp]

1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

It's amazing that a club of our calibre and pedigree didn't attract one decent owner offer in the years we were up for sale. Just a sequence of various chancers. Amazing.

Depends on who was doing the selling to a degree - better owners may have out there but discouraged to bid because the party contracted by the Walkers to conduct the sale were not considered ”sound” by serious Investors…

[chaddyrovers]

4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I had a quick look at that again last night and found a 2008 LT article from Andy Nield saying the "deal" was off with someone purporting to be Williams saying Rovers wanted too much money etc etc.

At the time there was no trace whatsoever of Williams or his Company or any of his business activities on the Internet nor any photos of him, the only photo purporting to be him was that single College graduation style snap.

Nield's article said that Williams' partners would have been a Connetticut based venture capital Company called Plainfield Asset mananagement. A search of Plainfield Asset Management now on Wikipedia shows that that it is a defunct Company started in 2005, was wound up in 2012 and by 2008 was "93% illiquid" with Customers barred from withdrawing their investment.

I thought at the time, and am even more convinced in light of the above, it was a complete hoax, if anyone thinks different, that's fine.

I think he was part of the group looking at buying Rovers but he wasn't the main finance guy and its was financial institutions being the main backing and I think their wealth went due to the 2008 financial crash. I think @philipl has more info as I seem to remember having a conversation about him previously 

FORMER Blackburn Rovers vice chairman Walter Hubert today insisted Daniel Williams is the right man to protect Jack Walker's legacy.

Dan's the real deal | Lancashire Telegraph

MAJOR American investors Plainfield Asset Management are today revealed as the big-money partners of Blackburn Rovers takeover bidder Daniel Williams.

The company is based in Greenwich, Connecticut and have about #2.5 billion already tied up with businesses in the States, including a massive stake in top racecourses.

They were formed just two years ago by a financier called Max Holmes, who has quickly completed a handful of top deals.

A two-man delegation from Plainfield were in England last week to meet Blackburn chairman John Williams and hammer out the deal as Dan Williams's business partners.

ROVERS: THE MAX FACTOR - World News - Mirror Online

45 minutes ago, Andy said:

He definitely existed - I can't remember the specifics now, but I tracked him down and exchanged a few emails with him at the time.

But I would suggest that he fell within the 'fantasist' bracket more than anything.

I also spoke to him via Email. 

Edited 13 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, Andy said:

He definitely existed - I can't remember the specifics now, but I tracked him down and exchanged a few emails with him at the time.

But I would suggest that he fell within the 'fantasist' bracket more than anything.

There's a few different possible variations of him "existing".

a) He actually was Dan Williams an American Businessman who was genuinely minted and who could afford to take over the Club but who backed out of any deal because the terms weren't right for him.

b) He actually was Dan Williams an American businessman but someone who in reality didnt have a pot to piss in.

c) He was someone who for a laugh invented the persona "Dan Williams" - lifelong Rovers fan hailing from Lytham St Annes turned American multimillionaire (who no-one's ever previously  come across or heard of) - and invented any personal link with potential backers some of whom might have existed.

I can't decide between b) and c) myself but I'd be incredibly surprised if it was a). Still not a scrap of info about him on the Internet to this day apart from the alleged attempts to take over Rovers and the Rhinos neither of which came to fruition

Going back to Nixon (which was the original point) he backed this bloke like he was Shaikh Mansour even though he was almost certainly b) or c).

Which again leads to suspicions that he is open to promoting agendas for cash, however vacuous they may be.

 

 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 Dan's the real deal | Lancashire Telegraph

MAJOR American investors Plainfield Asset Management are today revealed as the big-money partners of Blackburn Rovers takeover bidder Daniel Williams.

The company is based in Greenwich, Connecticut and have about #2.5 billion already tied up with businesses in the States, including a massive stake in top racecourses.

They were formed just two years ago by a financier called Max Holmes, who has quickly completed a handful of top deals.

A two-man delegation from Plainfield were in England last week to meet Blackburn chairman John Williams and hammer out the deal as Dan Williams's business partners.

ROVERS: THE MAX FACTOR - World News - Mirror Online

I also spoke to him via Email. 

Shows how easy it is to con people, (initially at least) From what I can see Plainfield Asset Management was set up in 2004 to manage funds of other people's money.

Whether the Company itself had any actual intrinsic value, or connection to the person purporting to be Dan Williams, or potential involvment in a Rovers takeover ,who knows, but in any event as I posted earlier they were declared insolvent and wound up in 2013 and as early as 2008 (when negotiations were still supposedly ongoing) they were deemed "93% illiquid" and investors were barred from taking their money out.

Edited 11 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[chaddyrovers]

9 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Shows how easy it is to con people, (initially at least) From what I can see Plainfield Asset Management was set up in 2004 to manage funds of other people's money.

Whether the Company itself had any actual intrinsic value, or connection to the person purporting to be Dan Williams, or potential involvment in a Rovers takeover ,who knows, but in any event as I posted earlier they were declared insolvent and wound up in 2013 and as early as 2008 (when negotiations were still supposedly ongoing) they were deemed "93% illiquid" and investors were barred from taking their money out.

Maybe look at the link for comments about his from a former Rovers vice chairman Walter Hubert.