B16Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Must be saving the 3 million war chest for league 1 defendersย 9 Quote
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simongarnerisgod Posted July 6 Posted July 6 34 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Ohashi nicks the odd goal and presses, but absolutely nothing sticks when he plays as a 9. He's a very good sub. I'd like to see him in a 2 or out wide in a 3. As the lone striker he gets bullied every week and piles the pressure on Rovers as we then don't have an out ball.ย tidy footballer but to lightweight for english football,good finisher and would be ok playing offย a big target man 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: tidy footballer but to lightweight for english football,good finisher and would be ok playing offย a big target man Would be okโฆ.as opposed to last season what was he? And letโs remember he had played half a season elsewhere so come Xmas was running on emptyย thereโs a lot of things to be critical of Ohashi isnโt one of them 3 Quote
B16Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Having a skim read of this lad, stat wise he seems to recover the ball a lot and created 25 chances in a shit Belgium club.ย ย He seems tall, quick and industrious.ย In the words of soccer AM, at 22 he's a great age.ย ย If he becomes an understudy on the cheap for Ohashi, and he puts himself about - so be it.ย ย Unfortunately hes probably our main attacking signingย Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted July 6 Posted July 6 marwan is a winger it states,seems we are collecting them Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: The idea of you of all people suggesting a lack of balance in someones posting is laughable. Its called debate, both positives or negatives. What I have said about and think about Gassama is that he is a good player, hes quick, young and has had a good season just gone. I merely questioned how he would potentially fit into the team, seeing as he is perhaps better suited to being off the left. If you see that as being negative or glass half empty, then that is a problem with you. As we have seen, you simply do not have or choose not to display the ability to question things. You take everything at face value, believe everything and can not fathom any potential questions or doubts that could lead to conundrums or issues down the line. There is no way that there is even a slight doubt to you that any signing will be anything other than a 100% success. I dont think people missed what Nixon said about having money to spend. We have heard it all numerous times before, often though so people dont get all giddy when we see it again. Actions speak louder than words. Again, because its written down, its 100% accurate. Your posts as dreams says are negative/half glass empty. I can admitted myself that I am half glass full type of person who looks at situations in positive light or find a solution. I don't get angry or fumed at anything anymore. Gets you nowhere in life.ย Gassama can play either side aswell as a 9 like he did at Sheffield Wednesday.ย more cliches again.ย Take the link withย Marwan Al-Sahafi who I know nothing about and never see play but I think it would be massive gamble if we are looking to sign as the rumours. I don't what strengths and weaknesses are. How that for balance RF99?ย I take reports of interest into players at face value and look into the players, what the strengths and weaknesses if that data is available plus look their stats etc. How can you have doubts on players you know very little about, you can only judge on what you see in Rovers shirt. You would have doubts in we sign Messi.ย No one has got giddy over Nixon's report today but simply mentioning on here cos people this morning didn't see it or comment about it. no one has said it 100% accurate but using the info out there and making points and comments of that report Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Some strange comments about Ohashi here. His finishes against Derby, his diving header at Norwich plus his 2 goals against Bristol City shown his class. He will get 15 goals this season for me and prove his doubters wrong 6 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Some strange comments about Ohashi here. His finishes against Derby, his diving header at Norwich plus his 2 goals against Bristol City shown his class. He will get 15 goals this season for me and prove his doubters wrong Someone in that front 3 has to be an outlet ball. It's a team game and the CF has to do more than score goals.ย When Gueye was on the bench we didn't have one. None of Ohashi, Dolan or Hedges could run in behind (and Hedges especially couldn't hold the ball up if you played it into his feet).ย Kargbo might solve that problem, if his hamstrings aren't made of cheese. Edited July 6 by Exiled_Rover Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted July 6 Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Some strange comments about Ohashi here. His finishes against Derby, his diving header at Norwich plus his 2 goals against Bristol City shown his class. He will get 15 goals this season for me and prove his doubters wrong i don`t doubt his ability,he a fine footballer,justย lightweight and not robust enough for english football,you are never getting a full season out of him 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 13 minutes ago, B16Rover said: Having a skim read of this lad, stat wise he seems to recover the ball a lot and created 25 chances in a shit Belgium club.ย ย He seems tall, quick and industrious.ย In the words of soccer AM, at 22 he's a great age.ย ย If he becomes an understudy on the cheap for Ohashi, and he puts himself about - so be it.ย ย Unfortunately hes probably our main attacking signingย He looks abit raw on those clips and abit chaotic. ย However he's young, quick and looks direct so could become a good signing...Think it may take time though. ย Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 54 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: What I would say though in his first season he already equalled Gallaghers goal contributions in any season he played. Heโs clearly not going to be the goal scoring 9 but if heโs offering more than our previous 9 already then Iโm happy to give him another season to see if there is improvementย In a team that refused / was unable to cross the ball to a 6'5" CF with a leap on him.ย I hope the new wingers can cross (I don't think the Belgian lad can from his highlights). Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: i don`t doubt his ability,he a fine footballer,justย lightweight and not robust enough for english football,you are never getting a full season out of him We should get Gallagher back then shall we heโs not lightweight and is certainly robust enoughโฆ.awful takeย Quote
JHRover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Your posts as dreams says are negative/half glass empty. I can admitted myself that I am half glass full type of person who looks at situations in positive light or find a solution. I don't get angry or fumed at anything anymore. Gets you nowhere in life.ย ย You say that as though the last 15 years at Rovers, or even the last 2 years at Rovers, haven't happened or that the root causes of it aren't still here. It also gets you nowhere in life to blindly ignore years of experience and track record and just pretend/convince yourself everything is going to be fine and dandy. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: In a team that refused / was unable to cross the ball to a 6'5" CF with a leap on him.ย I hope the new wingers can cross (I don't think the Belgian lad can from his highlights). Exactly heโs showed enough not to be written off was my main takeย Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 17 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: marwan is a winger it states,seems we are collecting them You need a few of them if you're playing a high pressing game. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Your posts as dreams says are negative/half glass empty. I can admitted myself that I am half glass full type of person who looks at situations in positive light or find a solution. I don't get angry or fumed at anything anymore. Gets you nowhere in life.ย Gassama can play either side aswell as a 9 like he did at Sheffield Wednesday.ย more cliches again.ย Take the link withย Marwan Al-Sahafi who I know nothing about and never see play but I think it would be massive gamble if we are looking to sign as the rumours. I don't what strengths and weaknesses are. How that for balance RF99?ย I take reports of interest into players at face value and look into the players, what the strengths and weaknesses if that data is available plus look their stats etc. How can you have doubts on players you know very little about, you can only judge on what you see in Rovers shirt. You would have doubts in we sign Messi.ย No one has got giddy over Nixon's report today but simply mentioning on here cos people this morning didn't see it or comment about it. no one has said it 100% accurate but using the info out there and making points and comments of that report Bit of a contradiction in here chaddyย โhow can you have doubts about players you know very little aboutโ โi know nothing about him or seen him play but it would be a massive gamble if we are to sign himโ thatโs a doubt surely? 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 6 Posted July 6 14 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Someone in that front 3 has to be an outlet ball. It's a team game and the CF has to do more than score goals.ย When Gueye was on the bench we didn't have one. None of Ohashi, Dolan or Hedges could run in behind (and Hedges especially couldn't hold the ball up if you played it into his feet).ย Kargbo might solve that problem, if his hamstrings aren't made of cheese. Ohashi isn't a target man but more of pressing forward like Paul Dickov type but with more ability to score the goals he did against Derby or Norwich.ย ย Big fan of Ohashi and his goal against Derby was pure class from him 13 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: i don`t doubt his ability,he a fine footballer,justย lightweight and not robust enough for english football,you are never getting a full season out of him Don't agree at all. He scored 10 goals and I focus on the player he is not the player he isnt. I think he will score 15 goals plus this coming season 5 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Bit of a contradiction in here chaddyย โhow can you have doubts about players you know very little aboutโ โi know nothing about him or seen him play but it would be a massive gamble if we are to sign himโ thatโs a doubt surely? Yes it is. I think we should go for someone with abit of English experience or championship experience instead of this player. Nothing against the player who looks quick with seems to be what we want in wide positions. Given we got Kargbo and De Neve already why I think Gassama or Musaba for example would be better in my opinion given they have experience at this level Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 6 Posted July 6 18 minutes ago, JHRover said: You say that as though the last 15 years at Rovers, or even the last 2 years at Rovers, haven't happened or that the root causes of it aren't still here. It also gets you nowhere in life to blindly ignore years of experience and track record and just pretend/convince yourself everything is going to be fine and dandy. Well talking more general in life situations and circumstances not just about Roversย Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Ohashi isn't a target man but more of pressing forward like Paul Dickov type but with more ability to score the goals he did against Derby or Norwich.ย ย Big fan of Ohashi and his goal against Derby was pure class from him Don't agree at all. He scored 10 goals and I focus on the player he is not the player he isnt. I think he will score 15 goals plus this coming season Yes it is. I think we should go for someone with abit of English experience or championship experience instead of this player. Nothing against the player who looks quick with seems to be what we want in wide positions. Given we got Kargbo and De Neve already why I think Gassama or Musaba for example would be better in my opinion given they have experience at this level Gassama would be better but I think the point Iโm making isโฆ.your calling out posters for doubting a player/signing when they havenโt kicked a ball but your doing the exact same here are you not 4 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Presumably that also shows a negative, glass half empty mentality based on his own logic. 2 Quote
Upside Down Posted July 6 Author Posted July 6 35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Your posts as dreams says are negative/half glass empty. I can admitted myself that I am half glass full type of person who looks at situations in positive light or find a solution. I don't get angry or fumed at anything anymore. Gets you nowhere in life.ย Gassama can play either side aswell as a 9 like he did at Sheffield Wednesday.ย more cliches again.ย Take the link withย Marwan Al-Sahafi who I know nothing about and never see play but I think it would be massive gamble if we are looking to sign as the rumours. I don't what strengths and weaknesses are. How that for balance RF99?ย I take reports of interest into players at face value and look into the players, what the strengths and weaknesses if that data is available plus look their stats etc. How can you have doubts on players you know very little about, you can only judge on what you see in Rovers shirt. You would have doubts in we sign Messi.ย No one has got giddy over Nixon's report today but simply mentioning on here cos people this morning didn't see it or comment about it. no one has said it 100% accurate but using the info out there and making points and comments of that report You don't half talk some right tripe. Please can you re-connect with reality before your next post? You just parroting nixon or the club or whatever other 'authority' figures you're simping for is ever so tiresome. 3 Quote
DutchRover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Ohashi is a quality player; his finishing is great and his movement in the attacking phase is exceptional. He also works hard in the press, so it is easy to see why managers seem to like him. I will concede he looked lighter at times, especially compared to someone like Gueye, but he played effectively 1.5 seasons without a break except for an injury. I would trust that a full pre-season and experience of last year will better prepare him for the Championship. He also made Japan debut too which is always a positive. Worth bearing in mind too that some of the best strikers ever have been much shorter than Ohashi, it's about the style we play as much as the individual. 7 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 6 Posted July 6 8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Gassama would be better but I think the point Iโm making isโฆ.your calling out posters for doubting a player/signing when they havenโt kicked a ball but your doing the exact same here are you not I'm not doubting the player ability and quality but I would be preferred championship experience in a winger signing given we have De Neve who hasnt played this level and Kargbo who had barely played at this level. That's all I'm saying.ย 7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Presumably that also shows a negative, glass half empty mentality based on his own logic. Seem above. Nothing I said was negative but my preference given we have 2 championship inexperienced wide players already. I actually thought you would approve of my commentย Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I'm not doubting the player ability and quality but I would be preferred championship experience in a winger signing given we have De Neve who hasnt played this level and Kargbo who had barely played at this level. That's all I'm saying.ย Seem above. Nothing I said was negative but my preference given we have 2 championship inexperienced wide players already. I actually thought you would approve of my commentย Ok well remember that when others cast their concerns why we arenโt signing exactly what you have preferred - donโt come on calling them out itโs just their preference - itโs also a doubtย 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Its a fair point and one I agree with. Its the hypocrisy though. Quote
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