2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[TommyRovers]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Sorry, didn't realise all comment and opinion was banned until the end of the window.

Glad to hear you have full faith in the powers that be to bring in the players we need in the positions we need them bearing in mind we're still waiting for an Adam Armstrong replacement.

Just an odd comment.

Of course we aren’t  ready for the season yet. We haven’t even played a friendly.

Most clubs’ squads aren’t ready at this stage.

[Angry_Pirate]

Maybe this is the year we get a few exciting and stud loans in - after the dreadful bunch last year (excl. Beck).

Some players who could move for the right opportunity to maybe look out for (at positions of need) are Tyrique George (Winger, Chelsea), Ben Doak (Winger, Liverpool) Ayden Heaven (CB, Man Utd), Vitor Reis (CB, Man City), Joe Gelhardt (CF, Leeds) and Chido Odi (CF, Man Utd). Plus whatever else Brighton and Liverpool have on the reduced isle.

Some of course will push on at their clubs, get loan to other Prem teams, others will certainly come down. 

Besides Harvey Elliott, I'm struggling to name a loan we were genuinely excited for in 13 years... Van Hecke, Tosin, Reed, Cairney, Armstrong (etc.) did excellent once here, but none were met with delight on arrival. Rovers seem to loan at a 20% success rate (at best) nowadays.

In this league, 3 Quality loans are very likely literally the difference between 18th and 5th.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

7 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Maybe this is the year we get a few exciting and stud loans in - after the dreadful bunch last year (excl. Beck).

Some players who could move for the right opportunity to maybe look out for (at positions of need) are Tyrique George (Winger, Chelsea), Ben Doak (Winger, Liverpool) Ayden Heaven (CB, Man Utd), Vitor Reis (CB, Man City), Joe Gelhardt (CF, Leeds) and Chido Odi (CF, Man Utd). Plus whatever else Brighton and Liverpool have on the reduced isle.

Some of course will push on at their clubs, get loan to other Prem teams, others will certainly come down. 

Besides Harvey Elliott, I'm struggling to name a loan we were genuinely excited for in 13 years... Van Hecke, Tosin, Reed, Cairney, Armstrong (etc.) did excellent once here, but none were met with delight on arrival. Rovers seem to loan at a 20% success rate (at best) nowadays.

In this league, 3 Quality loans are very likely literally the difference between 18th and 5th.

A lot of luck is required in the loan market out of the above doak stands out head and shoulders but looks as though he will be staying in the prem 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Toth 

Brittain carter hyam ribeiro

travis tronstad 

hedges cantwell kargbo

ohashi

Where’s the imbalance in that?

If I'm not mistaken that starting X1 you picked scored a grand total of 20 League goals last season and that's being slightly generous by including Kargbo's 3 in Serie B.

If that's a balanced X1 I'd hate to see an unbalanced one.

[Forever Blue]

8 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Maybe this is the year we get a few exciting and stud loans in - after the dreadful bunch last year (excl. Beck).

Some players who could move for the right opportunity to maybe look out for (at positions of need) are Tyrique George (Winger, Chelsea), Ben Doak (Winger, Liverpool) Ayden Heaven (CB, Man Utd), Vitor Reis (CB, Man City), Joe Gelhardt (CF, Leeds) and Chido Odi (CF, Man Utd). Plus whatever else Brighton and Liverpool have on the reduced isle.

Some of course will push on at their clubs, get loan to other Prem teams, others will certainly come down. 

Besides Harvey Elliott, I'm struggling to name a loan we were genuinely excited for in 13 years... Van Hecke, Tosin, Reed, Cairney, Armstrong (etc.) did excellent once here, but none were met with delight on arrival. Rovers seem to loan at a 20% success rate (at best) nowadays.

In this league, 3 Quality loans are very likely literally the difference between 18th and 5th.

How much was that Villa loanee costing Hull per month? Was it £250k a month? I’m guessing it’s a lot cheaper to get young lads on permanents,  and it’s the right policy. Lins tou say we’ve not had many good loans and they’ll have cost a lot of money. 

[islander200]

8 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Maybe this is the year we get a few exciting and stud loans in - after the dreadful bunch last year (excl. Beck).

Some players who could move for the right opportunity to maybe look out for (at positions of need) are Tyrique George (Winger, Chelsea), Ben Doak (Winger, Liverpool) Ayden Heaven (CB, Man Utd), Vitor Reis (CB, Man City), Joe Gelhardt (CF, Leeds) and Chido Odi (CF, Man Utd). Plus whatever else Brighton and Liverpool have on the reduced isle.

Some of course will push on at their clubs, get loan to other Prem teams, others will certainly come down. 

Besides Harvey Elliott, I'm struggling to name a loan we were genuinely excited for in 13 years... Van Hecke, Tosin, Reed, Cairney, Armstrong (etc.) did excellent once here, but none were met with delight on arrival. Rovers seem to loan at a 20% success rate (at best) nowadays.

In this league, 3 Quality loans are very likely literally the difference between 18th and 5th.

If we are going to loan in a young player from the Premier league then I'd like to see us take a chance on Danns from Liverpool. 

No chance Doak or George will be loaned to the Championship. Doak will get a prem permanent transfer this window and if George goes on loan it will be to a Premier league team or European top division side

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

If I'm not mistaken that starting X1 you picked scored a grand total of 20 League goals last season and that's being slightly generous by including Kargbo's 3 in Serie B.

If that's a balanced X1 I'd hate to see an unbalanced one.

Remember when szmodics scored 5 goals and then went on to score 27 in the league the next season……

yes I remember that too 

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Just saying his mate is a season ticket holder at Kortrijk and Ryan Alebiosu is the worst player he's ever seen.

RF99 searching twitter for negative stuff about a player we’ve signed?! Never!!!

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

And to say our attack is considerable weaker is just silly. We’ve lost 1 first team attacker and an ageing sub. Who knows who will step up next season. Ohashi might get 20, Gueye might get 10, Kargbo might he unplayable. Cantwell might have the season of his life. We might sign an amazing striker. So many unknowns. 

It's not silly at all. It's a fact we've lost 14 goals out of the squad.

One or two of the players above might theoretically catch fire in the manner you describe above but it's a lot more probable they won't and will perform in a similar manner to what they've done in the past.

If I buy a ticket for Euromillions tomorrow night I might win it as well.

[roversfan99]

8 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

RF99 searching twitter for negative stuff about a player we’ve signed?! Never!!!

It was directly under Elliott Jackson's tweet about it. I then deleted it upon realising it was a Burnley fan. I also referenced that St Mirren seemed to like him yesterday but that doesnt fit your narrative.

Why would it benefit me if we signed a shit player?

(And I am not saying that about this player)

[Forever Blue]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

It was directly under Elliott Jackson's tweet about it. I then deleted it upon realising it was a Burnley fan. I also referenced that St Mirren seemed to like him yesterday but that doesnt fit your narrative.

Why would it benefit me if we signed a shit player?

(And I am not saying that about this player)

It was a just a joke. Relax. 

[RoyWegerlesLeftToe]

Yey, false equivalence. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

29 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's not silly at all. It's a fact we've lost 14 goals out of the squad.

One or two of the players above might theoretically catch fire in the manner you describe above but it's a lot more probable they won't and will perform in a similar manner to what they've done in the past.

If I buy a ticket for Euromillions tomorrow night I might win it as well.

How’s it a lot more probable they won’t? What are you basing that on just assumption? If we had the same management team same tactics as all of last season into this season I could slightly see where this could come into your thinking 

the fact is we’ve a new manager full pre season new tactics and new players 

so it’s just as probable particularly given a years experience behind them that they will improve on last year 

[rigger]

51 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

If I'm not mistaken that starting X1 you picked scored a grand total of 20 League goals last season and that's being slightly generous by including Kargbo's 3 in Serie B.

If that's a balanced X1 I'd hate to see an unbalanced one.

A goalie, four defenders, two central midfielders, and three forwards plus one extra player to be deployed were the manager thinks will do most good against the opposition. Seems balanced to me. I don't think anyone has said the quality is good enough. Let's just see what THIS season brings.

Edited Thursday at 20:10 by rigger
noticed a mistake

[roversfan99]

The Szmodics example is often used but that is a very big exception to the rule though.

I do hope that some of our attackers do improve, they need to. Cantwell is a big one, he only scored 1 from open play and was disappointing in general but he didnt have a pre season and we know he has ability even if hes never been and almost certainly never will be a prolific goalscorer, but he needs to do more. Hard to know what to expect from Kargbo, he seemed very raw when he did play. Ohashi should benefit from a rest (international duty was not ideal, for us anyway) so hopefully he can avoid injury and improve now hes settled. Not as hopeful on Gueye.

The right wing was and still is our weakest position. I fear that Hedges will just remain there indefinitely even on the assumption that we sign someone. Hopefully they can come in soon and have a pre season.

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, rigger said:

A goalie, four defenders, two central midfielders, and three forwards. Seems balanced to me. I don't think anyone has said the quality is good enough. Let's just see what THIS season brings.

Doesnt seem balanced at all when you put it like that.

[Dreams of 1995]

Is Abelousi seemingly incompetent yet?

[roversfan99]

Absolutely dreadful. Going to be hounded out before he kicks a ball.

[Ricceh]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Doesnt seem balanced at all when you put it like that.

Must be after Buckley gets sent off for chucking a ball at someone

[Emerald Isle Rover]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The Szmodics example is often used but that is a very big exception to the rule though.

I do hope that some of our attackers do improve, they need to. Cantwell is a big one, he only scored 1 from open play and was disappointing in general but he didnt have a pre season and we know he has ability even if hes never been and almost certainly never will be a prolific goalscorer, but he needs to do more. Hard to know what to expect from Kargbo, he seemed very raw when he did play. Ohashi should benefit from a rest (international duty was not ideal, for us anyway) so hopefully he can avoid injury and improve now hes settled. Not as hopeful on Gueye.

The right wing was and still is our weakest position. I fear that Hedges will just remain there indefinitely even on the assumption that we sign someone. Hopefully they can come in soon and have a pre season.

Good balanced post agree with a lot of it except the start

i I don’t think szmodics is a very big exception to the rule 

Brereton Diaz showed little to no form then hit big numbers 

gyokeres another did nothing for Swansea nothing for Coventry in 2 seasons then bang form came 

[M_B]

11 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Is Abelousi seemingly incompetent yet?

Oh I'm sure he will be, just give it time. 

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Good balanced post agree with a lot of it except the start

i I don’t think szmodics is a very big exception to the rule 

Brereton Diaz showed little to no form then hit big numbers 

gyokeres another did nothing for Swansea nothing for Coventry in 2 seasons then bang form came 

But even then if you think about it, how many attackers in each of the last 5 seasons or whatever have previously had below 10 goals in the prior year, and then havent boomed into prolific goalscorers.

Theres hope that the players I mentioned could improve how many goals they got, but it would be a welcome massive shock and exception if they started scoring at that level.

[chaddyrovers]

9 hours ago, Neal said:

I'm starting to presume that what they've done is scrap most of the scouting folk and implemented some sort of AI protocol to identify players based on age/speed/estimated value using a filter function...

 

I think there was talk of Sheffield United doing this. Genuinely being serious because it certainly looks that way to me. 

We have scouts Neal like Michael Cairney and Piotr Sadowski plus with Adam Owen, Rudy Gestede and Valerien Ismael contacts and knowing people in these countries has help us scouting and finding them players. 

Yes Sheffield United owners want to introduce AI into their scouting knowledge  

8 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

Exactly….its been reported by multiple outlets that the fees are:

Tavares - 2m

DeNeve - 750k

Alebiosu - 500k

Baradji - 1.5m

Us “Naaaaaahhhh, utter bollocks!” 🤣🤣

 

exactly Paul, Rovers are spending money and that's doesn't fit with the narrative some people want. 

Still need a right winger, centre back and forward signings. 

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

 

- Why did we re-sign Forshaw? If its just for token experience, surely you dont get it in a position which with new signings is already bloated

Championship experience? 

7 hours ago, Rover84 said:

Athleticism, confidence, Beats players, Good ball retention. Fingers crossed he can do it in the championship I can get behind trying to find a few gems. As long as we can keep majority of championship experience in the starting 11

Ismael has made a big pint having athleticism in his team. 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But we didnt have enough for the play offs and that (on the pitch) was down to a subpar attack. Defensively we were very good but 3 key variables (Eustace, Batth and Beck) have all gone.

And our attack is considerably weaker than last year. 

They mentioned a figure of £4-5m being spent last year (which I remain unconvinced about) but they said a similar budget this season and in terms of fees, we cant be that far way. Hopefully some of the work done/about to be done really bolsters us but the attack desperately needs reinforcements and it would not make sense if we have blown the budget or most of it elsewhere.

We didn't get the playoffs cos of defeats to bottom 6 teams under 2 head coaches. That's the reason why we didn't make the playoffs 

[DutchRover]

I said earlier in the window that I thought we might spend a bit more this summer to quiet unrest and that is what they've done, even if they are inflating the quoted fees. The longer term damage being hidden is the wage cap, which is definitely being implemented, hence no new contracts and a reliance on relegated European talent.

That said, I have a more positive view of the signings so far than some here, and I the club does seem to be at least trying to copy a Brentford model of unheard European talents on the cheap. Whether it works remains to be seen...

I still think we will struggle this year, unless we bring in three or four more players, and offload guys like Buckley and Pears. CB and RW are major needs.