2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I didn't comment on Stoke's signings but they have made quality signings previously and gone nowhere league position. I don't think Stoke will be pushing for top 6. 

I stand by my point on Tyjon comment and the pointless comparison to Weimann. 2 different players and also in terms of footballing experience 

I didn't comment on Phillips joining Stoke or him joining Spurs. 

I don't see Wrexham pushing on and being playoffs contenders. Lower mid table at best 

It wasnt a comparison. I was saying that he is taking Weimann's place in the squad.

Although if he is to be our direct and only alternative to Cantwell, then he has to be considered a proper first team player and will be compared to senior players as if they are equal to him.

I never said that Wrexham would be play off contenders. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Nothing wrong with discussing signings now. As mentioned above, don't get why we can comment on other teams but must reserve judgement on ours.

Tyjon at the moment is taking Weimann's spot in the squad, covering Cantwell.

My post was more just a general update on transfers. People make out as if Phillips made a terrible choice joining Spurs but 2 and a half years of potentially regular football, moreso than he would have got here and on a much higher wage IMO justifies it. I suspect Spurs will sell him next summer and there wont be a shortage of takers. Stoke overall I suspect will do marginally better than last season.

Wrexham do have a few younger players than they once did but they do have a core of Championship proven, experienced players. That might not be fashionable in this world of projects but its important.

Hardie and Windass alongside Smith should get them a few goals and they also want Keiffer Moore. If they can get Lewis O'Brien that would be a big statement of intent. If they remember to fill out the paperwork. Dont see them as low as you think.

Disagree on the Phillips move was ready to break into rovers team and could have put himself in a position after a year or two for a better move 

spurs wasn’t the right move for him footballing wise competing with Romero van de ven dragusin dier etc wasn’t ever going to get that chance played half a season at plymoth then one at Stoke financially better off I suppose but footballing wise probably been a small downgrade 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

My comments are based on having a close Wrexham supporting friend.

Step up for Parkinson will be too much and doesn't believe half their squad will cope with the intensity of the championship...Also worries of the inexperience of the owners.

 

 

 

I dont get why the inexperience of the owners is relevant. The important thing is that the squad has lots of it, surely? All they do is keep signing cheques.

I must say that I am also not convinced by Parkinson now they are no longer a stand out side at the level.

Their squad in the lower leagues was full of players on their last legs that were still far too good but they do have a fair few now that are far from over the hill. Windass, Hardie, potentially O'Brien, Rathbone, Brunt, Longman etc.

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Disagree on the Phillips move was ready to break into rovers team and could have put himself in a position after a year or two for a better move 

spurs wasn’t the right move for him footballing wise competing with Romero van de ven dragusin dier etc wasn’t ever going to get that chance played half a season at plymoth then one at Stoke financially better off I suppose but footballing wise probably been a small downgrade 

But he hasnt had to compete with those players, bar half a season in which he would have had the experience of training against the likes of Kane with top coaches.

At best, he would have played as much football here as he has done anyway and will do this season. And thats assuming that he would have suddenly gone from 4th/5th choice here to 1st or 2nd.

And had he stayed here. Why would that have left him in a better position next summer compared to the position he will be in already? 

Spurs has been a good move because rather than keeping him around, theyve been able to choose really good moves for him to play regularly. He will go into next summer with 100+ Championship games under his belt, having really improved his reputation.

[B16Rover]

20 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Nobody comes here given a choice of somewhere else, they aren’t stupid.

[BankEnd Rover]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont get why the inexperience of the owners is relevant. The important thing is that the squad has lots of it, surely? All they do is keep signing cheques.

I must say that I am also not convinced by Parkinson now they are no longer a stand out side at the level.

Their squad in the lower leagues was full of players on their last legs that were still far too good but they do have a fair few now that are far from over the hill. Windass, Hardie, potentially O'Brien, Rathbone, Brunt, Longman etc.

Their season will boil down to how well they start and if they don't, how quickly they swap managers and who they bring in.

[bluebruce]

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Not at all Bruce as ever but you missed mine. 

No, you really did. I wasn't actually attempting to respond to yours, the only point I was making is you avoided Wilsden's. Don't then come at me like I a) missed yours or b) frequently miss yours, when neither is remotely true. Please stop these pointlessly defensive arguing tactics you've adopted, and use the tools of rational debate.

Now, I'll reiterate for the poster you were initially replying to - why is it ok to judge the signings of other teams, but too soon to judge ours?

 

[bluebruce]

13 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

My comments are based on having a close Wrexham supporting friend.

Step up for Parkinson will be too much and doesn't believe half their squad will cope with the intensity of the championship...Also worries of the inexperience of the owners.

 

 

 

Did he believe that their squad would cope with the intensity of League One or League Two? Did he expect three successive promotions? By the same token we don't watch League One, your friend probably doesn't watch this league enough to make that assessment. And we are only what, halfway through the window? The bookies heavily disagree with your friend.

Their owners may be inexperienced but they're a hundred times the owners ours are.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But he hasnt had to compete with those players, bar half a season in which he would have had the experience of training against the likes of Kane with top coaches.

At best, he would have played as much football here as he has done anyway and will do this season. And thats assuming that he would have suddenly gone from 4th/5th choice here to 1st or 2nd.

And had he stayed here. Why would that have left him in a better position next summer compared to the position he will be in already? 

Spurs has been a good move because rather than keeping him around, theyve been able to choose really good moves for him to play regularly. He will go into next summer with 100+ Championship games under his belt, having really improved his reputation.

So for the half a season he went without football was that a good thing? I don’t see how it was

ready to break into the rovers team he is clearly a talent and given the injuries we have already seen to carter and Wharton there was a fair chance he would have played quite a lot meaning his stock would have risen.

Moving to spurs to be pawned off to two relegation teams in the champ I strongly doubt was expected from him/or his agent with the likelihood of him moving on again next summer. So that will be rovers / spurs u21s / Plymouth / Stoke / whoever next in approx 3 seasons some players don’t have that many clubs in a lifetime let alone 3 seasons. 

[M_B]

10 hours ago, roverandout said:

Can anyone honestly say its been a good window so far? I can't 

I couldn't honestly say cos I've honestly never heard of all bar one. 

The proof of the pudding and all that. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

12 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Did he believe that their squad would cope with the intensity of League One or League Two? Did he expect three successive promotions? By the same token we don't watch League One, your friend probably doesn't watch this league enough to make that assessment. And we are only what, halfway through the window? The bookies heavily disagree with your friend.

Their owners may be inexperienced but they're a hundred times the owners ours are.

They need to sign more and there is plenty of time to do so 

not sure what relevance the bookies have on things though. Outside of parachute payment teams they are guessing as much as the next person 

[BankEnd Rover]

16 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Did he believe that their squad would cope with the intensity of League One or League Two? Did he expect three successive promotions? By the same token we don't watch League One, your friend probably doesn't watch this league enough to make that assessment. And we are only what, halfway through the window? The bookies heavily disagree with your friend.

Their owners may be inexperienced but they're a hundred times the owners ours are.

What? Do you want me to go back and ask him? I'm not sure why you're going so deep into it. Im sure a fan of a club has a more accurate point on their clubs position than you (no offence).

The step up from league 1 to championship is a whole difference level than 2 to 1. You don't need to study the championship to know that.

If the bookies disagree that's great, put your money where your mouth is 😀 or get mercer to.

 

[roversfan99]

22 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

So for the half a season he went without football was that a good thing? I don’t see how it was

ready to break into the rovers team he is clearly a talent and given the injuries we have already seen to carter and Wharton there was a fair chance he would have played quite a lot meaning his stock would have risen.

Moving to spurs to be pawned off to two relegation teams in the champ I strongly doubt was expected from him/or his agent with the likelihood of him moving on again next summer. So that will be rovers / spurs u21s / Plymouth / Stoke / whoever next in approx 3 seasons some players don’t have that many clubs in a lifetime let alone 3 seasons. 

You say ready to break into the first team here but it seems a stretch to assume considering how little he played and how far down the pecking order he was.

Either way, across these 3 seasons, assuming he is a regular at Stoke again which seems a safe bet. The chances are slim that he would have ended that period with more Championship appearances. So I don't see how he would have been a more attractive proposition or how his career would have been in a better place had he stayed. 

You say his stock would have risen, but bis stock has risen. Had he been a regular for 3 seasons here, which as I said seems incredibly unlikely but you disagree. Why would his stock have risen any more. Either way, he proves that he is a capable Championship defender.

I also very much doubt that he went to Spurs expecting to barge straight in.

[NeilInBristol]

31 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

So for the half a season he went without football was that a good thing? I don’t see how it was

ready to break into the rovers team he is clearly a talent and given the injuries we have already seen to carter and Wharton there was a fair chance he would have played quite a lot meaning his stock would have risen.

Moving to spurs to be pawned off to two relegation teams in the champ I strongly doubt was expected from him/or his agent with the likelihood of him moving on again next summer. So that will be rovers / spurs u21s / Plymouth / Stoke / whoever next in approx 3 seasons some players don’t have that many clubs in a lifetime let alone 3 seasons. 

Poor business from all around really 

Poor decision to sell

Poor decision for spurs to buy

Poor decision by his agent (s)

Shame to see one of our own unnecessarily play for Stoke

(especially when you see Adam doing so well at Palace)

[neophox]

5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Interesting take.

Weaker at LB then imo. Tyjon COULD be sensational. But do you think he'll feature enough to be considered a Dolan replacement?

If he does, might be an inspired move.

Wasnt Dolan 17 when he came?

[neophox]

8 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Best way at looking at this transfer window so far is, has our first 11 improved on last season?

Is McLoughlin better than Batth?

Is De Neve better than Dolan?

They are so far the only changes to our "best 11" that finished last season.

The answer to me is pretty clear.

You could also say it like this

 

Is Wharton better than Bath

Tyjon better than Dolan

?

Kargbo, Ohashi, Gueye and Cantwell having a full pre season.

Dolan was a passenger in so many games last season.

 

[Scotty1991]

Dolan is shit. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You say ready to break into the first team here but it seems a stretch to assume considering how little he played and how far down the pecking order he was.

Either way, across these 3 seasons, assuming he is a regular at Stoke again which seems a safe bet. The chances are slim that he would have ended that period with more Championship appearances. So I don't see how he would have been a more attractive proposition or how his career would have been in a better place had he stayed. 

You say his stock would have risen, but bis stock has risen. Had he been a regular for 3 seasons here, which as I said seems incredibly unlikely but you disagree. Why would his stock have risen any more. Either way, he proves that he is a capable Championship defender.

I also very much doubt that he went to Spurs expecting to barge straight in.

It’s not a stretch to assume really given the facts Iv just provided about injuries and his trajectory into the team at the time. Clearly a talented lad hence spurs wanting and getting him

why would the chances have been slim for him playing here the same amount of times if he’s valued/viewed to be that good a talent and was battling hard at the time to break into the team we signed mcfadz then batth. I’d say it’s a fair assumption he would have played quite a lot of games for rovers. And considering spurs wanted him then before moving actually playing a significant amount of games in the championship and performing then no doubt there would have been more suitors. But when you make a bad move then miss half a season and move to with all due respect Plymouth it sort of takes you out of the spotlight 

and I personally don’t think his stock as risen that much or he wouldn’t be going back to Stoke with the greatest respect to them.

And as for spurs I’d be very surprised if he plays any first team football ever for them so on that basis minus training against Harry Kane for 4/5 months I think it’s been a poor move for him

[Andy]

Just now, Scotty1991 said:

Dolan is shit. 

I think he finished the season pretty well, but generally, I'd agree that he was a very average player overall.

I think Tyjon has a much higher ceiling - and will contribute a greater GA output than Dolan, if he plays a similar amount of games.

And I actually think that Kargbo will turn out to contribute more for us, pending avoidance of injury.

[NeilInBristol]

1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

It’s not a stretch to assume really given the facts Iv just provided about injuries and his trajectory into the team at the time. Clearly a talented lad hence spurs wanting and getting him

why would the chances have been slim for him playing here the same amount of times if he’s valued/viewed to be that good a talent and was battling hard at the time to break into the team we signed mcfadz then batth. I’d say it’s a fair assumption he would have played quite a lot of games for rovers. And considering spurs wanted him then before moving actually playing a significant amount of games in the championship and performing then no doubt there would have been more suitors. But when you make a bad move then miss half a season and move to with all due respect Plymouth it sort of takes you out of the spotlight 

and I personally don’t think his stock as risen that much or he wouldn’t be going back to Stoke with the greatest respect to them.

And as for spurs I’d be very surprised if he plays any first team football ever for them so on that basis minus training against Harry Kane for 4/5 months I think it’s been a poor move for him

Agree re stock 

A quick look on transfermrkt and nothing major has changed since we sold him valued around £2m ish same as when we sold him

Another loan at Stoke when spurs playing in 4 comps next season says it all really.

 

May as well have stayed at rovers for a couple of years but we probably offered him a terrible contract and he moved.

 

Sad really 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

Agree re stock 

A quick look on transfermrkt and nothing major has changed since we sold him valued around £2m ish same as when we sold him

Another loan at Stoke when spurs playing in 4 comps next season says it all really.

 

May as well have stayed at rovers for a couple of years but we probably offered him a terrible contract and he moved.

 

Sad really 

Yes that’s fair Iv accepted the financial side of things more talking from a footballing perspective 

a player could move to leave one clubs and be better paid than some of rovers players 

[neophox]

12 hours ago, Browjd said:

One major trend every season is that we always have a sustained slump of games in the second half. This is down to having a poor squad - as soon as injuries hit, we can't replace with any quality (coupled with poor January transfer windows). We need a better bench. 

Gueye at WBA with Lowe as interim coach was the best I've seen in years from a Rovers striker.

Edited 7 hours ago by neophox

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, Mercer said:

Some might say he was forced out rather than walked out as was JDT and Lambert.

Who knows, Ismael may follow soon.

Any manager/head coach worth his salt is not going to put up with, IMO, the crap served up by our owners and exec. management.

 

 

 

I think once they knew there was a whiff of compensation in the air they couldn't help him through the door quick enough.

[vinotherover]

1 hour ago, London blue said:

Where will we finish @chaddyrovers ?

I seen one of them ai league position articles and it had us in 4th at the end of the season sounds fair lump 5 ton on it easy money 

[neophox]

Ohashi Brittain Classic 

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