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Posted
7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

There has been a bit of a change of narrative with Batth and Weimann.

It wasnt our choice to let them go. We tried to keep them but as with every other contract, it wasnt good enough.

It may turn out for the best as they are getting on, indeed I wouldnt have offered Weimann a deal to begin with. But it wasnt our plan. And if they do struggle this season, it isnt to the clubs credit. They leeft big holes compared to last year regardless of how they do this season.

Yep, however I didn’t disagree with the club only offering Batth and Wiemann short deals and within the wage cap. Wiemann in particular for me, would have been in the ‘experienced help for the younger players’ mould. Whether the wage cap overall is a good idea, is another argument. They did leave holes but think McLouglin was an excellent piece of business, as was Miller. We really need another striker though. 

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7 minutes ago, Nic81 said:

Yep, however I didn’t disagree with the club only offering Batth and Wiemann short deals and within the wage cap. Wiemann in particular for me, would have been in the ‘experienced help for the younger players’ mould. Whether the wage cap overall is a good idea, is another argument. They did leave holes but think McLouglin was an excellent piece of business, as was Miller. We really need another striker though. 

We offered the same length of deal that they signed at Derby. The idea that they wanted more than 1 year seemingly was a myth that was created to justify it.

The issue is that no one will sign a new deal. Still overshadows any transfer business.

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Posted (edited)

I'd 100% rather have Dolan and Brittain vs Alebiosu and De Neve. Which is no slight on the boys.

McLaughlin vs Batth seems closer, but I saw Batth for 35+ games vs 3 for Sean. I'd call it a wash, but Sean is younger and looked the part after 270 mins.

Henricksson and Baradji vs JRC and Buckley isn't even close without seeing much or any of the two new guys. The departing two offered nothing barring being academy graduates.

Tavares vs Bradford was excellent, seems extremely raw beyond that... give me Travis.

Miller I dont really have a 1:1 comparison, but good addition. Morishita should an excellent addition to replace Weimann etc.

Pears and Leonard out for New GK2 and New CF will almost certainly make us better. Though the aim should be a starting forward and not a like for like replacement for Leonard.

Mixed bag for sure, but for me an A+ summer would have been the ones in bold vs the actual business.

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Probably silly of us to be comparing some or the lads who've left from the ones who came in. Those who've left have experience in this league, those who've come in don't and have very different qualities... That said, I don't think anyone can argue that the lads who've come in have far more potential to improve. 

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Hyam named in the Scotland squad. Good news for Rovers, should add a few quid on to his sale price.

Was just about to post that 😉 

Also, how does Grant Hanley still keep getting called up?  He has hardly played for the past couple of years

 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Was just about to post that 😉 

Also, how does Grant Hanley still keep getting called up?  He has hardly played for the past couple of years

 

I was actually going to say - George Hirst - are they that desperate?

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Posted
12 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Was just about to post that 😉 

Also, how does Grant Hanley still keep getting called up?  He has hardly played for the past couple of years

 

It does warm my soul to know England are competing for European and World Cup finals and that Scottish team would struggle in the Championship. 

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They have 4 really strong players in McTominay and Gilmour at Napoli, McGinn at Villa and Ferguson who has also done really well in Serie A.

Unfortunately for them they all are central midfielders. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

They have 4 really strong players in McTominay and Gilmour at Napoli, McGinn at Villa and Ferguson who has also done really well in Serie A.

Unfortunately for them they all are central midfielders. 

On Football Manager, many years ago, there was an almost unbeatable formation: 4-1-3-2, except the 3 were CMs (1 DM with 3 CMs sat in front of them).

Maybe Scotland should try that. 

Posted
1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

They have 4 really strong players in McTominay and Gilmour at Napoli, McGinn at Villa and Ferguson who has also done really well in Serie A.

Unfortunately for them they all are central midfielders. 

Plus Robertson and Tierney.

They do have a few good ones.

Up front however it looks nearly as bad as us.

Posted
6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I was actually going to say - George Hirst - are they that desperate?

Yes, if they don't play him, they might have to start Lyndon Dykes 😉 

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5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They have 4 really strong players in McTominay and Gilmour at Napoli, McGinn at Villa and Ferguson who has also done really well in Serie A.

Unfortunately for them they all are central midfielders. 

Lennon Miler also a great young central midfielder, seen a bit of him at Motherwell.  Got a move to Udinese this summer

Posted
1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

We offered the same length of deal that they signed at Derby. The idea that they wanted more than 1 year seemingly was a myth that was created to justify it.

The issue is that no one will sign a new deal. Still overshadows any transfer business.

They wanted two more years on the terms we were offering. Probably got similar for one year at Derby 

iv gave up on the contract situation it’s quite clear this is a full reset 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

They wanted two more years on the terms we were offering. Probably got similar for one year at Derby 

Water under the bridge now, but you've "given up on it" because you're wrong.

 It wasn't the length of the contract offered per se that was the problem, as he signed for the same length of time at Derby. It was whatever wages we were offering.

You're trying to argue grass isn't green there.

Posted
10 hours ago, Songman said:

At a normal club* I'd disagree with you. How long do we let buckley hang around and toss it off so to speak. Absolute waste of a wage. League 1 talent with a Sunday league mindset.

Leonard slightly different but without looking at his age he must be 21 or so and is injured way to much for a kid age.

 

* I totally understand we aren't a normal club and the above are probably not the reasons. 😀

 

 

Think Leonard will be 23 in December, I'm risk averse so I'd like to loan him out, but it's a concern he's hasn't played more minutes. 

Posted

I wonder if Leonard having always had Adam Wharton playing him perfect through balls did him some favours coming up the ranks? Buckley I got the impression is thick as pig shit and fell under the influence of Dacky/Bezza, who both could piss around but still do the business on the pitch.

Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Water under the bridge now, but you've "given up on it" because you're wrong.

 It wasn't the length of the contract offered per se that was the problem, as he signed for the same length of time at Derby. It was whatever wages we were offering.

You're trying to argue grass isn't green there.

We weren’t going to offer them big deals at their age rightly or wrongly and Derby were 

its not a case of grass is greener it’s just a simple fact and as for me giving up on the contracts it’s not wrong it’s my opinion. None will sign were in full reset mode 

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Posted

Obviously Ismael will big up a new signing.

Not having that those other teams interested including Serie A clubs were serious. Otherwise he wouldnt be here.

Not saying he isnt good either, he may well be. But quotes like that are inevitable.

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