2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[chaddyrovers]

11 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

According to reports we got £3.5m for Travis and Brittain and £2.7m for Hyam.

Then roughly £1m each for JRC Buckley and Leonard.

Don't try to make out as though we actually spent any money this summer.

The original transfer budget was £5m as per the Rovers fans forum minutes. Yet we reinvested around 4-5m on top of them from players sales. I said last week Rev this very point. 

 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

2 loans to buy. Baradji loan to buy is a smart move by Rovers, if he plays and perform well enough we sign him. 

That's poor even by your standards chaddy.

We've replaced our Captain and the heartbeat of the team with someone who we dont seem to have any idea when he'll be fit. We could be down before he's fit for action or at least before he's properly match fit.

If we'd signed a suitable replacement for Travis and then this guy had come in in addition as a relatively low cost gamble that would have been fine.

[roversfan99]

28 minutes ago, M_B said:

They've just sorted 10 contracts out, it isn't a case of can't.

If players aren't signing then sell them, that much has definitely been learned . Whatever is going on, it most definitely isn't a continuation of the last few years, as you keep eluding to. 

Its not the same and you know it.

You are purposely avoiding the fact that we have become totally unable to get current first team players to sign new deals. The only one in two years was Ribeiro who initially signed on a strange short term deal and then extended it.

Its not normal. If you think that what we have seen suggests that contractual issues have been left in the past and we have learnt our lessons, then I suspect that you are in a very small minority.

[NeilInBristol]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The original transfer budget was £5m as per the Rovers fans forum minutes. Yet we reinvested around 4-5m on top of them from players sales. I said last week Rev this very point. 

 

It’s so frustrating we sell Wharton for whatever he sold him for in total (18+m)

sammie (8m+)

and others yet our budget is only 5m for the summer 

 

more frustrating that clubs like Wrexham go out and buy proven championship players yet we use our piltry £5m on unknowns which is a complete gamble

 

poor poor poor all round

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The original transfer budget was £5m as per the Rovers fans forum minutes. Yet we reinvested around 4-5m on top of them from players sales. I said last week Rev this very point. 

 

You're twisting words there to make it sound impressive.

If we'd spent £5m on players and not sold anyone then that would have been spending a £5m transfer budget on players.

We're probably around £2.5m in profit from this summer's dealings having sold Hyam.

[chaddyrovers]

56 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I am against that, but I am more against being totally unable to agree new deals with ANYONE.

We have lost our best players and over half a team because of it. The odd one, fine, you sell and replace. Impossible to adequately replace that many.

We couldn't agree new contracts with certain players but if we can't match their demands then we have to sell them. 

So we should break our wage budget to keep them then? So we should pay 30k a week if that is what they demand? 

56 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not sure its that smart unless he comes back very soon and is good because theres a big hole where Travis was.

yet you have no patience to wait and see what the actual situation is, cos you are already judging the player. We want a more box to box midfielder next to Tronstad now which is very different to the way we were playing last season. Yes we will miss All 6 in some ways, others more than others but Rovers must carry on. 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

So we have to watch Gueye in a Rovers shirt again. Wonderful.

Don't be silly. Anyone's better than nothing. Even Gallagher.

A rare outbreak of common sense from the Regime if true although they've probably just been looking at the cost of free agents and had a nasty shock.

Pity they didn't experience a similar moment of clarity before Hyam was sold.

 

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You're twisting words there to make it sound impressive.

If we'd spent £5m on players and not sold anyone then that would have been spending a £5m transfer budget on players.

We're probably around £2.5m in profit from this summer's dealings having sold Hyam.

I'm not twisting anything, I used what we know and we know the transfer budget was £5m and we spend near double that around £10m 

[Hasta]

We had such a good window Chaddy that you changed your prediction of top 6 to ‘midtable’. 

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I'm not twisting anything, I used what we know and we know the transfer budget was £5m and we spend near double that around £10m 

So you dont even acknowledge we sold £12.7m worth of players?

Just because Gestede said in the car crash interviews that sales made no difference to the transfer budget, it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

You're treating it as the done thing because the Club via the 3 stooges said at one point it was the way things happened here.

Vi also said after a certain point in the window that anyone going out would be replaced. Where's Hyam's replacement?

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So you dont even acknowledge we sold £12.7m worth of players?

Just because Gestede said in the car crash interviews that sales made no difference to the transfer budget, it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

You're treating it as the done thing because the Club via the 3 stooges said at one point it was the way things happened here.

Vi also said after a certain point in the window that anyone going out would be replaced. Where's Hyam's replacement?

I know what we received Rev. 

The transfer budget was £5m as said during the Fans Forum minutes yet we spent more and another £5m so did reinvest some money from sales. 

I have already discussed the Hyam situation and the lack of replacement. did you my posts? 

[roversfan99]

34 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We couldn't agree new contracts with certain players but if we can't match their demands then we have to sell them. 

So we should break our wage budget to keep them then? So we should pay 30k a week if that is what they demand? 

yet you have no patience to wait and see what the actual situation is, cos you are already judging the player. We want a more box to box midfielder next to Tronstad now which is very different to the way we were playing last season. Yes we will miss All 6 in some ways, others more than others but Rovers must carry on. 

You are just making figures up to defend the club. A club that cant get any of its current first team players to sign over such an extended period, that pattern suggests a huge problem and has massively undermined the whole summer as many expected it to do.

We dont have time to wait for the potential replacement for our captain if hes out for ages.

Travis was a box to box midfielder and a bloody effective one at this level. Lets not pretend his departure was part of a tactical overhaul.

[M_B]

40 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Its not the same and you know it.

You are purposely avoiding the fact that we have become totally unable to get current first team players to sign new deals. The only one in two years was Ribeiro who initially signed on a strange short term deal and then extended it.

Its not normal. If you think that what we have seen suggests that contractual issues have been left in the past and we have learnt our lessons, then I suspect that you are in a very small minority.

It isn't unable, they're more than capable of signing players as they've proved this summer , it's being unwilling.

Something else you always dismiss is just how determined the manager is to keep certain players. 

Britain he definitely wanted, Travis I don't think he was that bothered , and Hyam they received an offer too good to turn down(understandable but timing terrible). 

Just because you'd keep them doesn't mean they fit the manager's plans. 

 

[roversfan99]

41 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't be silly. Anyone's better than nothing. Even Gallagher.

A rare outbreak of common sense from the Regime if true although they've probably just been looking at the cost of free agents and had a nasty shock.

Pity they didn't experience a similar moment of clarity before Hyam was sold.

 

Gueye is worse than Gallagher although I am not sure why he gets a mention.

I would be pleased if I never saw Gueye in a Rovers shirt again because he weakens the team so much when he plays. Thats all my point was. 

I do sort of get the logic especially if its only a loan offer to keep temporarily due again to lack of recruitment but even if he stays I hope he isnt ever needed.

Sort of get the point about potentially being short but its not comparable to losing Hyam who not only was a key player but we are genuinely ridicilously short in that position without him. 

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, M_B said:

It isn't unable, they're more than capable of signing players as they've proved this summer , it's being unwilling.

Something else you always dismiss is just how determined the manager is to keep certain players. 

Britain he definitely wanted, Travis I don't think he was that bothered , and Hyam they received an offer too good to turn down(understandable but timing terrible). 

Just because you'd keep them doesn't mean they fit the manager's plans. 

 

There is no way that he was happy to get rid of all of those players. Certainly if he has even a shred of competence. 

They are more than capable of signing players yes on really cheap wages from abroad.

But again, we move away from the pattern. No one is signing contracts. Its not the odd player who has outgrown us or the odd one we want or are happy to discard. Its beyond that. You speak as if the club hae changed for the better.

[M_B]

31 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

There is no way that he was happy to get rid of all of those players. Certainly if he has even a shred of competence. 

They are more than capable of signing players yes on really cheap wages from abroad.

But again, we move away from the pattern. No one is signing contracts. Its not the odd player who has outgrown us or the odd one we want or are happy to discard. Its beyond that. You speak as if the club hae changed for the better.

I've no idea  if it's for the better, I'm just saying it as it is.

it's you that keeps insisting nothing has changed , when you'd have to be blind not to see it's completely different.

In their eyes, they're cleaning up the short  term/high wage, low profit mess they inherited.

Good idea if it works. 

[roversfan99]

32 minutes ago, M_B said:

I've no idea  if it's for the better, I'm just saying it as it is.

it's you that keeps insisting nothing has changed , when you'd have to be blind not to see it's completely different.

In their eyes, they're cleaning up the short  term/high wage, low profit mess they inherited.

Good idea if it works. 

It will work in reducing the wage bill. It wont help from a footballing perspective.

Nothing has changed in terms of being able to sort out contracts. And I suspect you know that, even if you have now been trying to claim that Ismael just was happy to let them go anyway.

[Hasta]

31 minutes ago, M_B said:

I've no idea  if it's for the better, I'm just saying it as it is.

it's you that keeps insisting nothing has changed , when you'd have to be blind not to see it's completely different.

In their eyes, they're cleaning up the short  term/high wage, low profit mess they inherited.

Good idea if it works. 

The idea is to get the club running on its off its own back with minimal input from the owners, even if that means league one or league two. By championship standards there wasn’t a high wage ‘mess’, but the owners no longer want to fund the club at this level like all other non-parachute owners need to.

So yes the plan is different in that we appear to want to cut salaries to even lower levels that we have operated at for the last 15 years. 

[Mercer]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You're twisting words there to make it sound impressive.

If we'd spent £5m on players and not sold anyone then that would have been spending a £5m transfer budget on players.

We're probably around £2.5m in profit from this summer's dealings having sold Hyam.

Nail on head.

I think the reality is we've spent sweet feck all!

Throw in the the bits and pieces from add ons for previous sales etc and I reckon we are in the black by about £5million so the reality is we will be running £10million favourable to budget plus huge savings on wages, getting on for £5million including employers' NI.

We are not investing.

Sadly, there are far too many gullible and naive in our fan base and they swallow, IMO, the substantially over-hyped transfer fees and subsequent bullsh1t from Ewood and LT hook, line and sinker. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

You are just making figures up to defend the club. A club that cant get any of its current first team players to sign over such an extended period, that pattern suggests a huge problem and has massively undermined the whole summer as many expected it to do.

We dont have time to wait for the potential replacement for our captain if hes out for ages.

Travis was a box to box midfielder and a bloody effective one at this level. Lets not pretend his departure was part of a tactical overhaul.

that what rumours says Travis wanted wage wise? 

for whatever reasons we couldn't agree new contract cos they demands are too high for our wage budget, so I will ask this very simple question, should Rovers have broken their wage budget to get a Travis or Brittain to get a new contract? 

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

It will work in reducing the wage bill. It wont help from a footballing perspective.

Nothing has changed in terms of being able to sort out contracts. And I suspect you know that, even if you have now been trying to claim that Ismael just was happy to let them go anyway.

Well you said Ismael throw Travis under the bus cos he told the supporters that he wanted out. still stand by that opinion? 

 

[Ghost7]

Never been more disengaged with the club.

Reckless transfer business in defence... going into an extremely physical 46 game Championship season. The only conclusion you can make is they don't care where we are in the league come January 1, and perhaps the beginning of May too.

Selling Hyam without a replacement felt like a slap in the face to paying fans. A better centre back partner for him with quality is what was needed but we didn't take that seriously either.

[BRFC.]

7 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

Well that is the plan. Try to maintain or not lose too much overall quality while substantially cutting costs; alongside creating "saleable assets" for the future. 

It's a very very tricky plan to pull off. I will be very impressed with the recruitment team if we manage to steer clear of a relegation battle.

Crediting them for getting us out of something they put us into by not recruiting experienced championship players like Alan Browne 

[Hasta]

24 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

for whatever reasons we couldn't agree new contract cos they demands are too high for our wage budget, so I will ask this very simple question, should Rovers have broken their wage budget to get a Travis or Brittain to get a new contract? 

Ah, should we have broken our “wage budget”?

Problem is no one on here knows what that was or is.
 

In order to answer that question you need to know what the exiting players were on, what they wanted, what the overall salary budget was and what we are up to now at the end of the window. Only then can you ascertain what we could have offered Brittain or Travis. You can’t just say “we aren’t paying over X amount”.
 

Maybe we could have kept Travis or Brittain if we used the wages we are wasting for Forshaw.

What makes me suspicious is we had two players on, say, £12k a week and we supposedly made good offers to try and keep them, as well as making offers to Batth and Hyam (and Dolan). Therefore, if that is to believed then the money we were offering them must all have been “within budget”. I bet the salary costs now are far lower than had they all said yes. In which case, there should have been plenty of money in the budget.  

So it’s not a simple question at all. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Hasta

[BRFC.]

4 hours ago, M_B said:

He also said we're paying for past managerial mistakes, we can't afford for players who aren't signing to walk away for nothing. 

“Past mistakes” Gueye, Ohashi, Toth, McLoughlin, Ribeiro, Cantwell and Kargbo’s will all have a year left by next season

[BRFC.]

 

25 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

Never been more disengaged with the club.

Reckless transfer business in defence... going into an extremely physical 46 game Championship season. The only conclusion you can make is they don't care where we are in the league come January 1, and perhaps the beginning of May too.

Selling Hyam without a replacement felt like a slap in the face to paying fans. A better centre back partner for him with quality is what was needed but we didn't take that seriously either.

It’s 4 games into the season and it’s got the feel of a disaster waiting to happen,  I’ll be shocked if we are still with a fighting chance come April if I’m totally honest, cheers Suhail, Rudy and special mention to the owners for making the 150th year an absolute disaster. Will take league two at this point if it meant we get these lot out 

Edited 1 hour ago by BRFC.