bluebruce Posted August 4 Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said: It's pretty inexcusable that any Football League club would sign an ESC player on a 3yr deal, and be over a year without even a legitimate sniff of the first team (Pre-season, EFL/FA cup squads etc), and now be in a position where that players slot is a hindering factor. Feel sorry for the lad as it isn't his fault. But he needs moved. He has barely made the u21s at times. Terrible signing. 1 Quote
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wilsdenrover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Would Miller definitely qualify for a work permit without being an ESC player? ย ย Quote
MarkBRFC Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said: Would Miller definitely qualify for a work permit without being an ESC player? ย ย Yes, due mostly to International minutes. Quote
wilsdenrover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Just now, MarkBRFC said: Yes, due mostly to International minutes. Did you check this as the website I used made him an exceptions panel case? Thanks.ย ย 2 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said: Did you check this as the website I used made him an exceptions panel case? Thanks.ย ย I've just ran it through this site to check -ย https://www.transferroom.com/gbe This also has him as a pass, but only just. 3 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: I've just ran it through this site to check -ย https://www.transferroom.com/gbe This also has him as a pass, but only just. Ta Hopefully this one has the right info! 2 Quote
davulsukur Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Hull have been given the green light by the EFL, to sign Oli McBurnie on a free transfer.ย Was this the guy we were linked with in the past? Quote
bluebruce Posted August 4 Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Ta Hopefully this one has the right info! I may be misremembering, but isn't there a bit of a back door with players in Scotland? I had it in my head they would automatically qualify here after they've been there a certain time. Quote
Backroom Tom Posted August 4 Backroom Posted August 4 52 minutes ago, KentExile said: You can tell him reads this forum can't you ๐ย ย Hi Elliott Heโd be daft not to really! As do the club Iโm sureย 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 minute ago, bluebruce said: I may be misremembering, but isn't there a bit of a back door with players in Scotland? I had it in my head they would automatically qualify here after they've been there a certain time. I donโt know tbh, Iโll reread the FA docs to see if anything jumps out. Quote
KentExile Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bluebruce said: I may be misremembering, but isn't there a bit of a back door with players in Scotland? I had it in my head they would automatically qualify here after they've been there a certain time. ย 4 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: I donโt know tbh, Iโll reread the FA docs to see if anything jumps out. ย 20 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: I've just ran it through this site to check -ย https://www.transferroom.com/gbe This also has him as a pass, but only just. Pretty sure as he is already playing regularly in Britain (not England), he will already have a British work permit.ย As he has been with them for 3 years, they will have moved him to a standard work permit by now According to AI AI Overview +4 ย Scottish clubs do not have Elite Significant Contribution (ESC) slotsย like English clubs.ย The English football system uses ESC slots to allow clubs to sign a limited number of exceptional international players who don't automatically qualify for aย Governing Body Endorsement (GBE)ย under the points-based system.ย While Scottish clubs can sign players from overseas, the process is different and not tied to the same ESC structure Edited August 4 by KentExile Quote
Ricceh Posted August 4 Posted August 4 If we're signing two CMs Trav is definitely off yeah. I doubt it'll be Derby though, hes too young for that squad. 1 Quote
Ossydave Posted August 4 Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Hull have been given the green light by the EFL, to sign Oli McBurnie on a free transfer.ย Was this the guy we were linked with in the past? Pretty sure Nixon linked him to us and Burnley, Eustace said it was bollocks (thankfully). He's stealing a living, there's a reason desperate Hull are probably his only option. Quote
KentExile Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ossydave said: Pretty sure Nixon linked him to us and Burnley, Eustace said it was bollocks (thankfully). He's stealing a living, there's a reason desperate Hull are probably his only option. He is s useful player at this level, just not up to LaLiga/Premier League standard Ipswich & Sheff Utd also linked with him Edited August 4 by KentExile 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KentExile said: ย ย Pretty sure as he is already playing regularly in Britain (not England), he will already have a British work permit Heโll have a visa for Britain (Home Office issued) and a work permit for Scotland (SFA issued). Heโd need a work permit for England (FA issued). Iโve reread the FA info and I canโt see anything regarding what @bluebruceย thought he remembered. What it does say is a player being loaned from Scotland to England would require an FA issued work permit (and that this requires meeting the FA, not SFA, criteria). ย Edited August 4 by wilsdenrover 2 Quote
bluebruce Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) 10 minutes ago, KentExile said: ย ย Pretty sure as he is already playing regularly in Britain (not England), he will already have a British work permit Yeh I thought there was something along those lines. I think we'd already know by now if he didn't count either way (GBE or through a British work permit in Scotland) as it would be holding up Henriksson. Edited August 4 by bluebruce 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) What we call work permits are actually called GBEs - Governing Body Endorsements. Each home nation has its own Governing Body. ย Edited August 4 by wilsdenrover 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Yeh I thought there was something along those lines. I think we'd already know by now if he didn't count either way, as it would be holding up Henriksson. Youโd think so but then you have to remember the (lack of) competence of our senior management. 2 Quote
bluebruce Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said: Youโd think so but then you have to remember the (lack of) competence of our senior management. It did cross my mind. It truly would be amateur hour again if they ballsed it up on not understanding this, it probably only takes a phone call to the relevant body to know. Then again this is the club that pressed save instead of send. 2 Quote
Ossydave Posted August 4 Posted August 4 10 minutes ago, KentExile said: He is s useful player at this level, just not up to LaLiga/Premier League standard Ipswich & Sheff Utd also linked with him He wasn't very useful in his last 2 championship seasons - 66 appearances and 13 goals? Those are worse than Sam Gallagher statsย 1 Quote
ObiWhan8t7 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Anyone seen the list of loans spurs have put out? Some quality players in it Quote
Eddie Posted August 4 Posted August 4 28 minutes ago, Ricceh said: If we're signing two CMs Trav is definitely off yeah. I doubt it'll be Derby though, hes too young for that squad. Why? I mean, I get it because of how the club is run, but we need more central midfield options. Our season was derailed last season because of injuries to TWO central midfielders. Adding three this summer would be sensible.ย 1 Quote
Ricceh Posted August 4 Posted August 4 6 minutes ago, Eddie said: Why? I mean, I get it because of how the club is run, but we need more central midfield options. Our season was derailed last season because of injuries to TWO central midfielders. Adding three this summer would be sensible.ย Yeah I agree dont worry, but the way this club is run is anything but sensible, which is why I think the stupid decisions will be made. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted August 4 Posted August 4 10 minutes ago, Eddie said: Why? I mean, I get it because of how the club is run, but we need more central midfield options. Our season was derailed last season because of injuries to TWO central midfielders. Adding three this summer would be sensible.ย Itโs just the elephant in the room with the lack of progress or no contract talks with trav. Add that to vals interviews re their situations it is leaning towards another exit and Travis is the one with more valueย 1 Quote
KentExile Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) Nothing there that wasn't said on here earlier, but puts it all in one thread Edited August 4 by KentExile Quote
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