I have to slightly disagree on that Den - there are alot of valid points made in the threads and as mentioned its not all about the money /prices etc even though that is probably the majority issue. Maybe by doing what you suggest would bring everything else into line but I feel its bit naive in thinking that, but thats just mine and your own opinions. The thread above from Jordan is probably the best I can go to explaining football from my own point of view simple but sort of too the point (and should be points and not pints) of what it should all be about. Obviously it might not be the same for everybody but I am sure it will be /or used to be for a lot of fans

Thing is its more than likely that Tugay will have to start most games now, which in my book is exactly what should happen anyway. Friedal is another obvious choice but I'm a bit against giving it to goalies as it needs to be somebody out in the play of the game ie be able to make an influence across the pitch. So if not Tugay, forget Bert , the alternative would have to be a centre back if playing (Zurab/Todd/Henchoz)

Weren't you on with us that day yb? Pandemonium when it finally went in - I too have it somewhere on video

Or mellowing and conforming to our way of thinking .....finally

Rev as you are aware we tend to see things from the same perspective, but I have to agree with Scotty here and as per others cannot see how Neill has been poor. In fact for a guy that seemingly wants to leave for ' a challenge' he has done alright for me and has arguably been our best defender. Yes he makes mistakes and has conceded alot of penalties but I haven't seen anything to make me think he has not been commited to the Rovers. He does seem to think he is better than he actually is, but for us he could prove to be a big loss when he eventually does leave - if at all, but if he does I wish him well and thank him for his time at the Rovers. As I have said before, if a player does not want to play for a club anymore they should let them go, but there appears to be more to this scenario and as previously posted it all appears a bit 'Miss Marple'. Overall I think the issue of him being Captain (not his fault) and his reaction in the Euro game is clouding the judgements of some people.

Wrong TND - we don't know they offered more for his services, and from all accounts Rovers offered him an even better one to his exisitng one And according to himself he wants a new challenge so this shouldn't even be an issue - which is what alot are posting about- he is going for the money However I do agree - what is the big issue - as per many, not my favourite but Thanks Lucas you did ok for us shame it looks like it has to end in a Miss Marple sort of way.

premier windfall So what do ya reckon - some used to offset the dwindling numbers at games ...?? Probably not

Well moving on another possible gate affector - don't think this has been posted anywhere For all you 5.15 lovers - WHAM game now moved for PPV WHAM KO TIME MOVED

I think this used to be the case for alot of us Jordan - except it was two points and three cans of Tennants Super/Thwaites bitter or Skol

Funnily enough FR, in Derbishire I see similar attributes to the younger and old Gallacher maybe however with bit more pace

Sorry Rev but for the first time ( I think ) have to agree with Theno again!! (omg ) on this but I do agree on video evidence not being the complete answer though.

Can't see anything other than a defeat Elm Parkers 1 v Rovers 0

Bloody Hell TND I agree whole heartedly Was mentioning this before the Nancy game - my view is that the officials are looking for something that is not there rather than refereeing to what they actually see ie oh, there is one man on the floor and another still running so there must have been a foul etc. This may not be the refs or linemans fault though - moreso the watching eyes putting the pressure on that they MUST make a decision regardless.

Totally agree AESF. Going back to last night , Neill shouldn't have done what he did but its was understandable given the booing on Saturday - however, as what has already been said he should not be Captain and Hughes has directly exacebated the situation as a result in doing so. Lay off the newcomers give them a chance, the one I thought was awful last night was Mokoena. Personally as we won I would start with the same line up on Saturday, then we might see what the players are made of.

Reports would suggest they are an 'underate at your peril' team and their home form is quite impressive. However, add to the fact they appear to adopt a different strategy away we shoudl be going all guns for them.... but as always there is always a but. We are absolutely crap at the moment, Hughes is suggesting players will be rested and when I always predict a win we lose. So even though I think we will win 2 v1 I am saying we will get beat 2 v 0

I don't think you will realise Paul how close you are to predicting the reaction here until tonight , if the responses I was getting underneath on Saturday before I left are anuthing to go by ( how many people where there down there!!) and that includes from ones who already had tickets.... then you could well be getting a call from Mystic Meg. Theno - I don't know if you are deliberately misreading or can't fathom what people are saying, but your responses would deem that you seem to think its all down to cost (including LANCASHIRE BLOODY UTD!! )

Obviously taken no notice of my posts in the Newcastle thread then The Officiating - its either that or I am just a stuck in the mud hankering for football when it was footbal - which is not too far in the past.

Agree FLB, however pricing the Liverpool game will not endear anybody. As I have said before , its all after the horse has bolted, the price plays some part but there is alot more to consider. The fans have already left and sporadic cheap prices are not going to bring them back overnight - the enjoyment, the matchday experience etc has been lost for want of alot of things happening in the game, and what happened Saturday is just a typical example.... I'll be there tomorrow and although away games, after what happened last Saturday I will now not be going to Reading , and I won't be at Wigan either due to the ticket prices even though I now live there.

How many does it have to be seen OR? If you are taking that as an example then every incident would have to be viewed and different speeds etc. The decision on Saturday was just total bollux and to top it off Henchoz won the header first anyway - if players are getting sent off for that and this is what football is coming to then they can stick it up their arse and get ready for even more mass exodus. Not a conspiracy because we are too good (which we are not) but as I have said on another thread , somebody does not want lil'old Blackburn in the Premier League.

Totally Tot agree TND. Too many rules 'interpreted' in my book. Black and white, black and white, black and white. What really annoye me more though is there are ruling bodies that govern the numpties in the middle - there is so much outrage about what is what etc yet nothing seems to be done about anything for the better except the constant harping on about `bloody video cameras'. What has happened to good old common sense and reading of a game ffs? Most in the game know what a genuine tackle is etc but more importance seems to be given up to stupid decisions like taking your shirt off yet and what could have happened instead of what has happened. If All of it is really getting me to the end of my tether and my enjoyment of the game is fast deteriorating much the same as alot who don't go watching anymore. Players managers and refs and their governing bodies all have a part to play it getting this sorted - by this I mean managers punishng players , players getting back to concentrating on football rather than playacting and cheating, berating refs... - refs to question the stupid rulings and black and white areas etc. If Henchoz was a sending off - why wasn't Lehman for Arsenal or in fact both of em especially the shennanigans that went on yesterday. All of it is spoiling the game - most of it down to money. Also with Abbey on this , there is a conspiracy somebody does not want lil'old Blackburn in the Premier League (Media)

If not the players then the Fans certainly do!! Still not taken in by the performance in the 2nd half as this is what should have been happening in the 1st half especially after the performance defeat at Charlton. The annoying aspect of it all is, that regardless of the 2nd half we where still the better team in the first half yet we end up conceeding two sloppy goals and against poor opposition yet again and the geordies for the 2nd year running scored x3 at our place.

Wouldn't bother with Le Chuck's comments Den as I am sure he/she is a ref the way he/she is arse licking to them at the moment - seems to be conned into this oh its a foul the guy must be sent off bag of crap. Sorry, folks we where crap and there is nobody else to blame except Sparky and the players - forget the 2nd half it was TOO EFFIN LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, going back a few posts I'm with Jammy on this - through the prick on the pitch and my own stupidity (I saw red)I nearly had my season ticket taken off me I was close to going over the barrier today after that decision. After the altercation of the damn steward (only doing his job I know ) I had had enough and just waited underneath until they opened the gates - I was off, wasn't bothered whether we won lost or drew from that point - my enjoyment of the game had been lost and is wearing very thin at the moment. At the moment I am totally ###### off with so called ' rules' and interpretation bollux co-incided with the no-contact whatsoever game that the FA nearly lost another Fan today. Fancy a Guinness Jammy, Abbey's paying

Exactly what I have to do nowadays TND unlike when I was younger when I hardly missed a game home or away - except everything else now has to take priority for my wallet 1.SKY TV - got rid of last year 2. No holiday for CK clan 2007on the cards at the moment (except for me and a Euro jolly) 3. Not bothered really about cars as long as it runs - so keep my existing one until forced to change 4. Lucky if I get that 5. 2 Yoghurts a Banana and an Apple - sometimes a bag of crisp thrown in 6. Thats what I do for Lunch 7. XMAS - nope has to stay for CK Jnr (and big kid CK Snr ) but agreed less spending this time 8. SEASON TICKET - on direct debit and plans to renew Agree though the club can't continue to keep reducing prices for particular games, however the ticket prices need to come down in general across the board. As I have said before the horse has already bolted..... interest has been lost on many with probably no recall. IHB covers it perfectly

Its plain and simple - if we can't score against a defence like this then we know for sure we have got problems. Its about time we had a rout or at least bagged more than 1 or 2 goals. ROVERS 5 V 2 The overhyped alcoholic 'where was when you where still sheite' shopping bags

Wrong - every game is a must win although I agree with what you mean.