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Ended up goping back home with what remained of the teddy that got thrown about and ripped apart stuck on my head.

But if its not quite working properly it needs looking at. He doesn't need to bust a gut - but needs to apply himself more when the ball goes to him by way of challenging for headers and offering an outlet - something he has not done a great deal of over the last couple of months He has the ability with classs on top - he needs to show it instead of trying to be a show off all the time as Blue Phil posted he could be well capable of adding another 5 - I think it could have been more.

Maybe not as good but might have a bit more and balance if they played people in their rightful positions, and stopped asking them to adopt something different to the normal style they play every week. ROONEY - is not an out an out goalscorer so shouldn't be relied upon to OWEN - has been missed , but we do have what should be adequate back up. SCHOLES - Also missed -Rooney could fill this Role (brain/thinker) will explain later. GERRARD - Wasted out wide - as I have posted before he is pinnacle IMO to England doing well and must be the one in the middle. BECKHAM - Drive and thinking on the pitch - missed What England need is somebody with a 'brain' in the middle (and a manager to kick arse)ie Beckham/Scholes that is intelligent (football wise) and good enough to take things on and be the leader on the pitch (for me now this would be Gerrard/Rooney). Not into this Gerrard and Lampard can't play together - they are good enough and should be intelligent and disciplined enough to know who goes forward and who stays back - if need either one adopts one position and sticks to it. As mentioned before, to me the set up is all wrong and it should all have been started a afresh before McClaren was installed - there should be natural progression for the under 21's to slot into the side if need, but the set up with Pearce and his part time position just shows how 'important ' the FA think it is.

And boring - how the hell did he get a gong

had too many that day myself also - been on a bender night before at Peps and continued the day after Indeed due to the building work we where in our BB End seats in the Darwen End and managed to find myself flying past Bob Fleming when Shearer scored. Don't know if anybody can remember in the Darwen End but one of the lads who used to come on with us ( no idea where he is nowadays) was absolutely blotto'd on wacky baccy and booze and was literally crawling up one set of the steps after Shearer scored as he ran down to the front then his legs just gave way. Not sure if this is when we played Southampton not so long afterwards as I had bought tickets for the away game and lost them inside the ground -but that could have been another match - found them later but that's another story.

They where comparing the two forwards to see what they did in the game - which as we all know McCarthy did bugger all (as mentioned on another thread neither did DERBS but at least he tried) and has done for the last two months IMO. It would appear some are closing their eyes - yes he has scored goals and some cracking ones, but don't be blind to his poor performances which are not one offs - as mentioned he has the talent and the aptitude and should be able to show it on a more consistent basis which is what he hasn't and that is what is so annoying. I think its what is called as a kick up they arse (remember the Arse (sorry) game and goal)?

Don't think anybody has mentioned anything about them wanting him to track back or run 6 miles , but I think they would like him to look, like he is at least interested by closing players downa and challenging for headers. News of the World commented upon him at Tevez at the weekend about how Tevez tried to get involved and create things and referred back to Gary Lineker running six miles during matches - what they said about McCarthy was he was lucky if he ran 2 miles and his performance bordered on being absolutely lazy. So not just some people on here - he has the talent which is why people probably get angry and for the last two months his performance have bordered on on what the NOTW described

Oh I remember it ... questions as to why so few Charlton fans, crap match but atmosphere was excellent especially when they paraded the cup at the end. The difference between one step to another on the terrace especially higher up towards the back and when we scored a number of supporters went literally from top to bottom. Another one I have the video for somewhere as OJ comments on - those where the days of Skol.

Not anymore Blakey - used to go to a majority each season. Went to Portsmouth the opening game (first time been seeing as how many times we have played them) and Everton away in the cup (£20 ticket). Last Season Wigan and Citeh. If I didn't have my season ticket - I wouldn't pay it at Ewood either. Mostly down to principle but some because I simply cannot afford it anymore ie I am now married and have a little boy and don't have the funds to justify spending it on Football.

More willing than me Abbey - £20 is my limit unless a one off - there are far better away games to go to than MU IMO

And typically also incredibly bad finishing by the Rovers .. coming back to what I always say about us making opposition keepers look good (has always been a habit of ours) although he did net well that day.

Not if a secret Bellamy deal has been done again ie Sparky - 'quick word in yer ear Craig mate'

Agree on one respect MB but to me and think they are fairly similar, except that Bellamy used to do alot more running and start and finish a move. McCarthy is a better header but far more lazy yet has what I would call an eye for goal more than Bellamy. One thing is for sure, yet again though I thought he was very poor again yesterday and does blow far too hot and cold for my liking.

Ok managed to get down and have a chat with the ow'der one last night... would appear he has a Fan Club now especially made up from those that went via Amsterdam to Feynenoord. Anyway, he is still resident until told to do one by the club, even though I will be having another word about the barracking of the keeper at goalkicks. As for those who haven't shown face to chat to him then you only have yourself to blame - as he says those who don't like it give him your side (amicably) However, thought they did ok last night (maybe because most of the crowd seemed up for it) and he managed to beak the skin on the drum. So there you have it folks

Ok dependent upon what time I get on if at all tonight than I will attempt to have a chat with our resident DJ. If not somebody else can step in if they like, as because of the movement of the game I can't make it Sunday

Wasn't this the one where the highlghts where shown on the Sunday on Granada (when it used to be on) - then used in the opening highlights when the programme was on for other games?

And in true FA fashion JEWELL HIT WITH FA CHARGE

Colin this is the point I was referring to above - IMO The problem is the refs do not give the decisions as they see them. There is too much off the field activity in my book and again I refer to question i have raised above. Welshrover states what we all know - FR backs him and TND ( at last TND not just about the money ) confirms another reason why people are turning their back on the game. Interesting comment , from Jewell and Hughes last night on the radio - Jewell commented about refs being professional saying they weren't professional as 'professionals' are supposedly good at what they do. Hughes comments where in a way supporting the outburst of Jewel in stating that there should be a medium where managers could vent their feelings and have them heard as it is a highly emotional game and the refs decisions could/are costing people jobs.

I'm not ... not totally anyway - maybe for goals and possibly 'off the ball incidents or a penalties but that would be about it for me. I don't think the refs are bias towards any team really- I just think they are all bad and have no 'authority' to control a game and go off what they actually see rather than what they think they see 'ie their mind is already made up before thinking about something than what they have seen. My reasoning for this is because of the way the rules are interpreted - (why can't they be black and white and who dictates the intepretation?) and the powers that be that enforce and run the rule over the refs with the monitoring of the performances. I might be wrong on this, but can anybody recall somebody coming out and saying a decision was wrong (not a ref)? So bearing this in mind who would suggest a video replay being used (ref? - what if he feels he was right and if not what is the point of the ref) Yes odd times refs have done it, which is fair enough and what people want to hear but I still feel this is major part of what is wrong - refs will never call any incident right all of the time and will always make mistakes, however there are times when it is blatantly obvious even from where a ref or assistant is positioned yet they still get it wrong.

This to me says it all really - as a referee (or official) the guy is totally inept and useless as with many others. Watched this with Wigan fans in a pub yesterday and their reactions of disgust where more of its expected rather than total damnation. The thing is we should be bothered about this , as we should if it was anybody as this could easily have been us and as Aggy posted has been us on many a occasion this season. Top it all off for Wigan , looks like jewell is going to get it in the neck now as well for his comments - when all he has done is stated the bloody obvious that everybody can see bar the officials and those that monitor them.

Mmmm ...Abbey didn't you post you didn't get that job in Liverpool

Leaf it to me Abbey , as a corn understand what is is yew on a bout

The funny thing (or maybe not) is to resolve the situation they would probably cut the tree down first

Well folks did anybody see him? - I saw the two young lads but I was later getting on today and went looking for him but didn't see him so looks like it will have to be the Pompey game.

I'm on it MR -just don't blame me for the mess As mentioned I will go and have another chat with him on Saturday.