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Dunno , I'm sure it will come out in the wash, as this can't be brushed under the carpet

Ashfaq left at Xmas, Cheston I believe has not left ,though his departure been on the cards for about a year as he wanted to retire last year, so it wouldn't surprise me if he departs in the near future or is working a notice period. Neither related to the latest fiasco

The thing is with this whole circus which makes me nervous, is the couple of constants over the last 10/11 years. Sylvester and Suhail, We've had the old Shaw Fax Machine, O'Brien, McGuire, Hidden work permits by company directors to prevent transfers, and staff being hired. So to spin the coin between error and sabotage, I genuinely with confidence could not wager my savings either way. Maybe the agents are wrong and those ghost in the corridors don't get a pay day on certain deals? This whole thing needs breaking down, as I still believe we have other things at work here, rather than it being a simple error

I'd point it at the Raos rather than venkys. Venkys is a company, make it personal

Reading around the net as a whole, there appears to be far more approval (Even read one tweet suggesting a GB Statue), regarding our business. Seen a number of posts, suggesting JDT Better not complain as we have not only delivered but gone above and beyond with the best window in years. Read some post suggesting there is a core of spoilt brats in the supporter base who would rather we spunk the money away that ain't even cold from hitting the bank, and risk the long term future of the club, to prove they are right in terms of the club not being financially supported. Read posts of Venky.s would if they could , send funds and we need to help them, and Wharton realised this as a fan, and sacrificed himself for the rest of us. Shocking amount of post suggesting we are well run, and have taken a mature view to the window and not only have options but some incredible ones. My own view is the same view as it was before the window, we have again gone quantity over quality, and to add to that picture take short terms options leaving a mammoth rebuilding job in the summer, when the fees generated is whittled away to cover operating costs, and we head out for more loans to build a team. Nothing against any of the players we've signed, they need to be given a chance, and always will be as its what we do. A mixture of age and youth, so some balance there, but totally underwhelmed of the markets we find ourselves in due to piss poor management, from owners to CEO's to FDS, I won't be fooled with this loan to buy scenario as we get these all the time and come the time to buy, the criteria has not been met and we send them on the merry way

For me the statement put out by the club stating we had funds to get to the end of the season, is spitting in my face , when they bloody knew that was based on selling our biggest asset. Loans, loans and more loans , with most of Adams fee gobbled up to pay the bills. Add that to pending Raya money Phillip's money and any further sales, they are really leaving us to rot with zero ambition.

SWAG Probably said , cancel hotel for him, cant afford it now. Also don't put fuel in Swaggott's wheels to pick him up at the airport as we aint paying overtime to the driver to pick a player up we cant afford. Let Orlando know they need to pick up bill. The penny pinching git, do anything to save a pound

Four times I planned to renew my season ticket this season.and four times chose not to due to the tones coming out the board room. I didn't think the day would come where I never renewed my season ticket or chose not to go to a single game. My mind is firmly made up, I won't be renewing next season either , in fact I probably won't buy one again, not whilst we are under this ownership and board. My brother with his son renewed and has attended just one game, he has zero interest in attending, whilst my mate also didn't bother. I've lost complete interest, and would have to Google our next league game to see who we are playing. Everything this club does from one day to the next, has driven me further away, and they ain't getting a single dime off me for the foreseeable. I'm totally disconnected, and feel that they take our support for granted. Well not any more, they can plough on , in their merry way with the flat earthers who defend their every move because they've lived rent free in my brain long enough

Goes back to the question I asked here the other day, where some were suggesting they can have funds based on previous hearing , and that they couldn't be penalised for the hearing not happening. Don't know if that's true, though Duncan suggested no. Maybe we've taken a further loan out against an asset? Or had an indication Raya funds may land, or its based on us selling Wharton, or we've cried poverty in the courts (lied) and have limited funds which we chose not to disclose. Having money now unless it's come from elsewhere is not consistent with what we was told in December. The club stating they now have funds suggest something has changed since December or they are expecting a cash injection

The pattern with Rovers when they sell is to allow these bids to go public, usually in the hope of a bidding war. They did with Philips , they did with Kaminski It's like they are telling Palace etc you need to be quick because others are in. I'd be shocked if both ain't sold this window. We are certainly not seeing the "Not for sale" with these alleged bids being rejected. They clearly want as much as they can get and with a week to go , hoping to extract as much as they can.

So are you saying. "No hearing no funds"?

Some suggesting on twitter we would get funds now based on previous ruling? I'm not sure that's correct but dont know its incorrect either. . Pretty sure SW said we had to provide substantiation to each claim and given they granted the funds on the previous bills, surely they won't just grant another 11 million blindly in absence of the hearing? I genuinely don't know their laws . Anyone more legally minded know the likelihood of the above scenario?

Just my opinion bud

A Wharton sale will come down to if JDT gets 85% to spend in this window. If that's a NO , I can't see JDT or GB entertaining the idea. The longer we can't get transfer fee money out of India the need to generate it from sales grows larger with the results on the pitch alarming. True saleable assets are few and far between . Getting a million here or there for a first team player ain't going to generate a fund decent enough to attract better first team players. It's a certainly a conundrum for the manager and GB I suspect

Some interesting footage of the fall under these cretins, but also interesting points like the LET for example backing the supporters. Keep the good fight , just listening to the likes of Tony Parkes and others, brings back the memories of the past. We cannot allow any of the story under V's be lost It was only a few months back we had interviews claiming its the best it's ever been under V's and articles claiming they were one of the leagues best owners. The only people who will tell our story , is our fans. The personnel may have changed, but the decline remains. https://ewoodpark.jimdofree.com/the-venky-s-reign-of-error-the-protest-movement-video-s-key-players-media-articles-chronology-of-events-and-photo-s/

No issue with LET journalist, Though the fact he is rehashing minutes and meetings he didn't attend as news , then admitting he ain't ever had a meeting with SWAG himself , somewhat loses credibility. The SWAG is very accessible , and if people who don't get paid can get meetings in their own time, you'd thijk the local RAG could, or at least a call to substantiate or deny. No wonder the sales of newspapers are dropping

@J*B we have not had a BRFCS poll for a long time regarding where the blame lies. If our season tickets are circa 9000, then any poll 900 or more participants is a nice percentage for a, A recent poll was carried out which equates to 10% of the home crowd . Just a thought?

That's my wife banned from putting my shirts on washing line

There is a substantial post venkys supporter base. They've lost thousands of pre-venkys with new ones who were either not old enough to remember rovers in 2010 or have got the bug since.

If we lose this weekend, it will organically go off i think

I can't disagree on the fanbase, however I've always been in the rather ",Try and fail" than not try at all. Had I not got of my ass 12 years ago, SEM would of took us to the cleaners. Yes more should of stood up and it was heartbreaking to see those who didn't. The hours put in by those who tried including yourself will forever be in the grain and history of our club. I cannot even begin to explain the hours and 10s of thousands of my money I invested in trying to get to the truth, the inheritance my family will need soon. The friends I've seen pass, who stood shoulder to shoulder. I'm not as able as I was back then, sadly life has taken its toll in the cruelest way, but whilst I have a pulse , I will always give my 100% support to aid those who want to rid this club of the rot. If that means standing in the cold, marching down the street or getting on the pitch , I've give over caring , providing the end result is they are gone. The lights only go Out for me when God says come on, you have now expired

It's throwing around discussion for debate You continually being pessimistic without putting forward an alternative is tiresome. I believe you are in the Venkys out camp? Thinking outside the box, might not be the game set and match , but everything evolves from suggestions

If the debt is secured against something this can be better as at least they can claw off from the guarantee, However if its unsecured the only option they have is the courts and winding up for non payment as their is no security to repossess

If you create a cost the club can't cover and hasn't been accounted for in the latest application to courts, then bills won't be paid. If it ain't paid threats of winding up orders can suddenly become more than threats. It leaves V's two options. Admin and lose everything, or sell. I've been a director/shareholder of a company with a decent headcount that we had to put into administration due to not being able to pay creditors because we was owed £2.5 million by a large enterprise. Be under no illusions, any unsecured creditor can put you out of business if you aimt got the means to pay. In addition as someone who has organised protests , you be extremely surprised how much planning goes into it from the council , club , police etc . Its not a case of, chuck a few extra bodies on tonight. Many of rovers games nowadays are without police presence due to cost

Seen a lot of posts around social media, and the club do have their spotters and have to risk assess the possibility. So prevention will become a consideration