This is Coyle all over again, a complete inability to defend. No question about it we're dropping like a stone just as some of the struggling teams pick up form. I love JDT but questions need to be asked at this point.

I have seen very few derby games at any level with one side performing as bad as that day.

Even away from that, his win rate may be decent for us but his loss rate is appalling - his brand of football has no idea how to grings out results and as soon as a couple of games in a row come up we collapse.

The club is rotten to the core, Mowbray and JDT masked some of it but it is still deep set. Until Venky's are gone nothing will change. Unfortunately, the fan base is beyond numb to it and will continue to dwindle as the club dies. Venkys out

Zero fight in this team at all, and has been the case for years. Going nowhere but down - JDT get out while you can.

I'm sorry but that's nonsense, Pears is just as much a liability. We're heading exactly where we belong with our owners cost cutting plan and if we do drop in the next couple of seasons there will be no way back this time.

We just don't have the squad to keep this style of football going when energy levels drop and I think we're going to see another drop off going into the new year. Problem is, we're much closer to peril than last year and I can see us getting dragged into a relegation battle. Love JDT and he's limited in what he has, but he needs to start adapting.

Bottle merchants. Something seriously wrong with this squad at the moment

The only teams who have lost more than us are the teams in the bottom three. Another season where JDT, as good as the football can be, has shown a complete and total inability keep games close. Some of the worst performances of my lifetime have come under his tenure, which is frustrating because we can be so good.

Don't be silly, we haven't got close to them at all. The red didn't help, but we were never getting a point. Another game where we haven't even attempted to play.

Let's see what happens when they visit next week before gloating!

The amount of times we seem to just flat out not bother is infuriating.

Yet another defeat. It's extremely worrying that we have a complete inability to do anything other than win or lose with this team, but JDT has been left to patch together out of squads from misfits and youth talent and with the injury list the options are limited. That said, I'd love to know how this treading water is supposed to do anything for us. We can sell some players off but that won't be reinvested properly and we can already see that the U21s we have can't compete because all their best players are in the first team. In the longer term the only way is down with such a lack of ambition.

At the end of the day we lose far too many games to ever realistically challenge for promotion. Management are happy to let us tread water and eventually it will bite us. Utterly depressing.

JDT has an appalling record in our derby games so far, let's hope for a change in fortune tonight!

Is he a downgrade? They're both just awful in different ways I'd say

So we're in November and we still don't have a fit and/or capable striker. It's beyond a joke at this point how bad the recruitment process is.

He's only new of course but the new keeper really isn't doing us any favours. Letting TK go was arguably more damaging than not getting a striker in.

I think the fact that neither of them ever seem anywhere near the first team says a lot about how well they're rated as signings.

Reasons why people don't attend home games exhibit #2353

My Swansea supporting colleague will love this. Yet another game where we haven't even bothered turning up, could easily be 3 or 4 already.

When you only shop around in discount bins for players (or relying on kids) it's highly unlikely you'll do anything. We will never reach playoffs with the current regime in charge.

Yeah, good football isn't entertaining in the slightest if you lose every game and get relegated. Just ask Owen Coyle.

We can forget about the playoffs this season. We're dire at both ends of the pitch and that is 100% at Venky's door. Though Broughton's signings have been largely pointless as well.

This team is in a relegation fight, and I don't think any of the have the cajones for it