As much as I like Mowbray, I think he messed up the first substitution today. Bringing Palmer on when winning was unnecessary. To put him out on the left took him away from his natural position but crucially, caused Bennett to move from the left to the right. Without the hard working Bennett in front of him, Williams was left dreadfully exposed and completely at the mercy of the dangerous Edwards who made mincemeat of him. I suggested to my son after Palmer had been on only a matter of minutes that I felt Mowbray would be regretting the change and would probably like to hook Palmer but wouldn't want to destroy his confidence by doing so. He then took Dack off purely to move Palmer away from the role he couldn't perform and to save face by putting him centrally, off the striker. The net result of unnecessary substitutions was that there was no one left to replace the obviously injured Bennett in the closing minutes. Also the talismanic Dack was sat twiddling his thumbs in the stands (at least, that's what it looked like!) It was an uncharacteristic error of judgement by Mowbray but I think he must really rate Palmer which is pleasing to know.

Currently on holiday in Majorca. Just walked into a sports bar and bizarrely seen that this game is being screened live. Posters up advertising it. It's the only game being shown.

Very enjoyable first half. We are worryingly short of strikers and that must be addressed. I thought Nyambe was superb. Very slim looking and confident. High hopes for him next season.

George Best got 37 caps if memory serves. An attempt was made to get him fit for the 1982 World Cup in Spain. I think George went to Boro to try to regain his fitness but couldn't make it. He was around 37 years old. My favourite ever winger Noel played in that tournament instead of Best so it wasn't all bad.

Who is this xyz character? Chinese? Who is his agent? Never heard of him but he sounds perfect for us.

VAR! What is it good for?

Yeah, those Christians! I mean, how dare they?

If you watch Garner' s second goal, the pitch side photographer captures his celebration after the knee slide (around the 3min 48 sec mark).That very photograph is the one shown on one of the various navy blue t shirts sold in the club shop a few years back with the number '10 Garner' on the back. I have the t shirt but had to stop wearing it on match days a couple of years back as we always lost!

Goal action on Radio Lancashire!

Similar age to Howard Kendall when he came in. Hopefully he will adapt to the third division with the same success.

Sorry for the late reply Chaddy; just seen your post. I'm not entirely sure how many players are involved in this but I think I can speculate with a degree of accuracy. Steele- I wanted him replaced months ago. Mowbray knows him of old. I believe Mowbray wanted Raya in several games earlier but didn't want to destroy Steele. When Steele visibly demonstrated an 'injury' the other week during a home game (Preston?), I didn't believe he was genuinely injured. I think his confidence is completely shot and he wanted to be rested. Hoban- I know some like him but I haven't been impressed since his return. Wasn't he dropped for the last game? A strange decision if true. Isn't he a loanee and therefore leaving soon? Feeney- he is a Coyle man and Mowbray has publicly had a problem with him since day one. Feeney has infuriated Mowbray in my opinion. Gallagher- another Coyle man and far worse under Mowbray. Graham - anyone who saw his innocuous 'hip injury' within minutes of coming on the other week would have to be sceptical. He certainly seemed to recover remarkably quickly to now be back in contention. Can anyone honestly say his body language this season has been indicative of a happy player? Stokes- wtf!! Corry Evans- see Stokes/Graham above Where is Greer? Akpan- incongrously arrived in a taxi before the last home game. Not sure that is partuicularly relevant to this thread but he played like he he had been on the ale. Guthrie- I rate him but I think he is a gobby scouser who rubs managers up the wrong way. I bet he would offer an interesting view on the season after a few pints! Emnes /Joao - big buddies and travelling companions. Very talented but absolutely zero interest in our club. A bad influence on each other and collectively, a manager's basic nightmare. I see Raya, Conway, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Lowe, Nyambe,Williams and Mahoney as the flip side of the coin and basically the good guys. I called relegation before a ball was kicked and I call it now. Mowbray must be gutted. He is a genuine good guy surrounded by scoundrels and wastrels. Oh, for a Kevin Moran or a Craig Bellamy! Even an Ian Miller or a Robbie Savage!

I have heard today from two unconnected people that Mowbray is experiencing problems with a small but significant number of senior players who quite simply have no interest in playing. His comments lately to the Telegraph seem to support that, when reading between the lines. Emnes is the one name mentioned to me but it appears there are others. I don't suppose I should be suprised that a bunch of overpaid journeymen with no affiliation to the club, nor any intention of staying beyond the end of the season seemingly couldn't care less, but it still hurts to hear. My Brentford trip is officially cancelled!

Johnson may have turned it down. He is doing a cracking job and won't want to tarnish his CV with what he may see as inevitable failure. He probably wants to make the step up to first team duties at a more orderly club.

After the initial shock, I am heartened by reading the message boards from his previous clubs. He is obviously a man of integrity and pride. He is a hard man in some respects and I think he will ride the players if they coast. I think that Coyle worked absolute wonders at the start of the season in assembling a decent squad with no financial backing. Unfortunately he is ineffective as a manager and was taking us down. We have the players here to climb the league and have to hope for a positive start. I think Mowbray will be pleasantly surprised by the quality of some of the players here. One slightly negative point is Dunn 's admiration of Jason Lowe. I was surprised to hear this some time ago from the horses mouth. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lowe back in centre midfield on Friday which always spells disaster for me.

Exactly how I felt. I seem to remember Palace having a threadbare team in the first leg. They seemed unusually confident in the days before the second leg due to the return to fitness of Wright and Bright. It was a surreal nightmare in that pen on a hot day with inflatable bananas aplenty! I think we brought Sean Curry on and and played an over the hill Ian Miller, showing our own threadbare squad.Andy Kennedy scored a few that year and I think we would have gone up if he had been fit.

He scored two screamers early on and I think the penalty would have made it 3-0. If it had gone in I reckon we would have scored at least another one or two as we were on fire in that first leg. We would have put the tie beyond doubt and Howard, Gennoe and Garns would have had a season in the 1st division....

Hello all; I am fulfilling my obligations by posting here to enable me to contribute to the forum. I know that no one will be interested in my ramblings, so....