Broughton hired JDT He gets credit for Eustace. After that im struggling other than perhaps suhail has made that job virtually impossible.

I agree, he had it between the ears but his legs were struggling by the end before his injury. I'd wager money after a big injury that he'll struggle to replicate last seasons return.

Makes me laugh that these club employees come and go without communication with the owners but Glen has Balaji Rao reading his messages! On the meeting club issue, i believe that the 'no suhail no meeting' stance is fully justified. Without him there it's all pointless spin from the club. If the Venky's have magically woken up to the fact the club isn't being well run then I'd be offering up suhail in particular as a sacrificial lamb. On a separate point, was further disappointed to see waggott in the fans forum minutes claiming that the owners had put in x amount over the last 3 years rather than tell us exactly how much since the summer of 2023.

The plan was always to sell him in that summer But instead we sold him to the first bidder that came along when other potential bidders were not in the market due to ffp. Archie gray went that summer for north of £40million. And he's not the player wharton is. I don't understand how people argue that we got a good price for him. A once in a generation player for our academy.

A sensible club would already have had these discussions with the 2026 lot and would now be reacting to the outcome. If they aren't renewing then they are being sold as we can't allow assets to walk for nothing and the funds are needed to replace them. And if they are signing it gives us more of aj idea of where we need to buy players and what budget is available. None of the loans are coming back for various reasons. I suspect forshaw will go. Hedges will remain in some form as the market for him won't be as fierce. Batth will likely stay making a further mockery of the refusal to offer him a 2 year deal 2 years ago, but a 1 year deal is sensible. Suspect weimann will get another year but with him showing signs of slowing down pre injury I dont think this will work out. Dolan will leave and won't be adequately replaced.

45 mins but I get your point.

Out of interest, what makes you say that? By chance do you know who the last person was and he may have potentially left the club? Was the previous person genuine? Is this person?

I can't in good conscience hand over any money at this point onwards. As by doing so I'm endorsing what they are doing. It tells them they can do as they please as people like me would still turn up and pay their money. Suhail believes it a minority of fans, he'll soon realise it isn't if people stop buying season tickets. I won't buy more tickets just to sing venkys out songs. That's why the remaining home games are important. We need to build momentum and harness the anger of the crowd. The poor results and performances under ismael have the ability to turbo charge fan dissent as tbh that's the only thing some pay attention to. I await the next phase. Really I believe that it should result with us trying to get the last home game of the season severely disrupted in some way.

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I think i would also accept this as a fall back position. Ultimately there isn't too much room for compromise here. Venkys have to go and to have no involvement in the running of the club.

Took eustace about 11 games to win a game last season but most of those games were draws from memory and performances (maybe with the odd exception) weren't terrible. You could at least see some progress in terms of goals conceded anyway.

Gestede says he's as much as fan of the club as us fans who are protesting/concerned. Well isn't it a relief that we have one of our own in such a senior role 😉😉😉 In all seriousness, no you aren't rudy. Trust me you have no idea how ridiculous that comment is. He thinks he can play us for fools does this guy.

If we can't protest or make our feelings known now then there never will be a good time. The clubs line of getting behind the players worked last season as we were in a relegation battle. But trying to repeat that line now comes across as desperate. Playoffs have long gone and to suggest otherwise is pretty insulting imo. There's now nothing riding on these last few home games. The pressure needs to be applied and ramped up on the owners/slt

1.What's the desired end game. Venkys selling the club to new owners 2. What's the compromise position. For me I would be prepared to 're-engage' with the club and continue to support the club financially by buying season tickets in the interim if ownership publically put the club up for sale and certain conditions were met around that. 3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date. Generally very good. Obviously there will come a time soon where we need a bit more organised direction but I'm hoping that comes after the express yourself thing vs Boro. Beyond that I'd like to see more documentation of why we are at the end of of our tether with the owners / board. Easily disseminable information that could be used to inform the outside press and convert those that are scared of change away from the venkys. 4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday. Lies, spin and waffle. I'm not really sure throughout all of the info relased yesterday we are much clearer because they aren't being open and what they say doesn't match their actions 5. Do you want to get more involved? Yes, not in a leadership capacity but would be able to do something else to help.

Now listened to gestede on the arte labore podcast. I know he's the least important character in all this but wow are we in trouble. The guy is completely deluded. Honestly its keanesque

I've listened to the club video and now the BBC lancs interview. And I'm still no closer to figuring out what is happening with venkys funding. Suhail contradicts himself constantly to the point where I believe him to be lying.

I don't particularly care about the team selection here. Does anyone have any good ideas for chants aimed at suhail?

Claims his grandad was the chairman in the 70s. Anyone know who that was out of interest?

All the other stuff parked to one side for a minute. I think we should take a min to appreciate that rudy gestede head of whatever at a chpionship football club said this... not once but twice. Back to the other stuff, I'd get angry with what they said but they're pouring petrol on themselves at this point so found it quite enjoyable. Kudos to all those involved for strategically placing this rake in front of them! I'm looking forward to Friday night now!

There isn't anything he could say that would convince me that the owners don't need to go but I am curious as to what he will say. I suspect he'll inadvertently add fuel to the fire.

I mean technically VI is an aspiring league 1 manager with the way he's got us playing.

That would suggest a downgrading of the academy etc too as I'm assuming we need a 21s to comply with the current academy rating we are.

I would urge those with an account to argue their case in the comment sections of places where there is not a lot of support. For example the lancashire evening telegraph. Some really infuriating stuff on there.

It's madness but the board have entirely created this situation: They created the conditions that led to eustace jumping ship for a team in the bottom 3. They then picked the wrong manager They then gave him a 3 and half year deal when were likely to be heading backwards(to a manager not in a position to demand such a good contract). Rendering the manager unsackable. Gestede, waggott, pasha all idiots, fools and chancers.

If Wharton leaves palace for big money then it'll be another 10-15 million propping up running costs. May even mean another half a mil in transfer budget! If they decide to hold onto the players in their last year of contract based upon this, then it is conceivable we stay up next year. Which just prolongs the inevitable.