Again, the stat that counts is points / finishing position. I wouldn’t call last season a success.

“I’m not patronising but you can’t answer a simple question”… that you’ve already answered. To repeat myself for the dim witted - I’m not bothered about the style of play, I just preferred it when our tactics primary job where to win, get points. This setup’s first responsibility is to “add value” and I find it boring in the main. Either deal with it and move on or find someone else to quote.

Don’t be so patronising. There are 50+ games to look at. Only a blithering idiot would base their opinions on the two best performances.

I am looking it as a whole, it was mainly boring and tepid. Some of the games got me off my seat - the Sheff United game in the league and the cup stuff but ultimately; He got the same amount of points as the much maligned Mowbray. With a style of football that bored me to death. Each to their own.

Islander - just look at the very last competitive game we played. We had to come back from a deficit caused by our ridiculously bad decision making with the ball in our own half. All caused by playing out from the back. It might be worth upping the spectacle prescription.

Yea Luton at home when we desperately needed points was “excellent football”… we only scored after throwing away the game plan. Spanked off Norwich, who let us pass around for as long as we wanted, played a direct ball and cut us in half. Hull at home 0-0 on sky at 8pm, easily the most boring game of the season. Same against Coventry at home and Preston - whilst you can argue we had some misfortune in all of those games, we didn’t get the result. So I’m not sure which games you watched - the only top performances I would’ve picked out, Huddersfield away (but remember our shocking weak as piss defending) and then the stomach punch of Burnley at home.

What a surprise. Go on, I will bite. Possession football is further up the pitch, what we do is not that. This constant playing out from the back is never going to be safe, because we don’t have players technically good enough. Im all for pressing, but our play generally is depressing because teams know they’ve probably more chance of beating us by letting us have the ball. All I want to see is a team setup to get the best results. Ours is predominately setup to add value to players first. Most of the football in the last 12 months has been dull, imo.

It took me 10 minutes or the first game to remember why I hated long spells of last season and the incessant passing around the back. Why this is a popular style of football is beyond me.

Preston averaged 1500 more than us at home over last season, total attendance that is. Season before 2500 less. I don’t know the ins and outs of the cost over that time or their relative finishes in the league but that is a big jump from 2022

My guess is it’s more likely just someone he knew was being transferred, something that’s exactly what happened to trippier and I imagine Harry knows quite a few top English players from coming through.

Judging by the amount of likes this post achieved, I can’t believe people are still so sore about that! If it’s linked to betting - the exchange markets (betfair etc) are normally quite liquid before 2pm, but if you know for definite that a big player is missing or on the bench, you’re benefiting from information that the market doesn’t have. Its advantageous for those laying the bets, not necessarily those taking them.

What would you suggest is a good figure this summer? I appreciate that we had 18k around 12 years ago, but realistically that would take more than cost or marketing to achieve imo. 10k? I’ve no real opinion on Waggott but being realistic, what do we think would be successful this summer.

Out of interest, do either of you have season tickets?

Isn’t that pretty much what JDT said in March? “They’ve never had it so good”? Personally find (not you Mike) the conspiracy stuff still floating about with Mowbray on this thread incredibly strange. The guys gone, just move on.

Like cigarettes and tobacco - they’re always going to be something kids will likely see adults doing and try, I do get that but cigarettes aren’t even legal to advertise because of the damage they do, and how addictive they are. We don’t know everything about long term vapour inhalation, other than it’s less damaging than smoking. That doesn’t mean they should be sold in sweet flavours and colourful boxes though - that’s the marketing to children part, look at Totally Wickeds branding for Christ sake, couldn’t be anymore alluring for young teenagers. The second part of this is exactly the point - they’re being put into view of every single young rover. It’s bad for them and the environment. It’s bad for our brand too.

No

Sheesh, why do I bother.

Good point but we should try to protect education and opportunities, as well as stopping bad influences. (I could write a dissertation on what TikTok is doing) Whilst it may be a small issue compared to wider problems, I just don’t think it should be all over our brand. @Mattyblue a bit of nuance on our “commercial side” 😛

As a secondary school teacher I couldn’t agree anymore unequivocally. Weve managed to make nicotine more appealing to kids, for short term gain and long term health and environmental damage… and people like Chaddy think this is fine to advertise…

Yea and yours is just ignoring it. You’re once again (classic style) moving the goalposts. Were not advertising those things, because of “morals” yet these addictive things are ok? Because you know that there is no positive side to this - you either ignore reality and accept whatever the club does “as the best it could’ve” or you ask the question, “why are we helping advertise this shit?” If it was any of those examples, beer, betting etc - you’d say exactly the same “it’s probably the best the could’ve got” with no evidence. Nice attempt at taking the piss there btw, I’m sure in the castle you live in, the nearby town is full of the detritus this crap creates. Just because you don’t care, doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter! It’s not, it’s called reality. If you asked a decorator to paint your landing, and they wrote FUCK OFF in the centre of it, would you thank and congratulate them for professional cutting in?

They don’t …. So you’re saying there isn’t one kid in Blackburn with sweet flavoured nicotine vaporisers from them? Also what about the streets littered with them? The shirt is ruined by a tacky logo in the middle of it. How on Earth is anyone supposed to look at the shirt without seeing it?

Rather than just the normal platitudes - why not answer the following; 1. is a company that sells addictive toys to children an appropriate sponsor 2. Do we want a tacky and badly designed logo on the front of our shirts?

@MarkBRFC @Sweaty Gussets @Mattyblue Just trying to avoid derailing other threads - my thoughts haven’t changed since above post at the end of the season. To put more “nuance” in - I have faith that we may improve again next year with more time and investment. If we are similarly laborious, weak as piss and dropping points for fun - I expect the majority will quickly turn on the Dutch dots.

Despite the huge fuck ups in January, namely on transfer deadline day, I agree somewhat with the last sentence. I am fully on board with the DOF idea, even if I’m still referring to Greg as “Broughtnowt” as we currently stand. He is embarking on an extremely important summer to prove his worth. He deserves a chance.

I didn’t advocate or suggest JDT last season as I didn’t know his credentials, so I’d stay away from naming specific people. Plenty of coaches and managers in our league who’ve got more from the “sum of parts” than JDT managed this year however. He didn’t help my opinion either, with comments akin to “this is the best rovers have been” in years, because of cup runs.