Depends what they are making the difference to. Someone like Docherty is just a championship also-ran and isn't going to push us to to challenging for the play offs. But if we are relying on last years squads and freebies / loans, players like that might be the difference between 21st and 22nd in the league. Don't get me wrong that's depressing but where I see us currently at. I'm normally an advocate that we should only usually be bringing in players better than the starting XI, but the squad is so piss weak that it also needs squad players too. As @Exiled_Rover accurately put in the ST thread "I'm not sitting through another 20+ matches of us being blown away as soon as teams turn to their benches. "

I wouldn't expect the club to do that, so fair play. But if it was me who contacted them in that scenario I wouldnt feel annoyed about it if they said no as I wouldnt expect it. And it is a bit unfair that some people may have stopped going because of cost, whereas other people got free season tickets for emailing in. There's plenty of reasons to dig the club out, and season tickets especially in the riverside should be cheaper, but not sure your example is one of them.

Regardless of who owned the club or in what era this scenario happened, that's how I would expect it to play out.

Who was the last player we signed who had previously played a decent number of games for Burnley? (Say 20+) I’m probably missing someone obvious but can’t think of any. I can think of quite a few going the other way.

I’d say JPVH, Elliot, Tosin and the wasted Harrison Reed were all definitely good enough in recent times. I also didn’t mind bringing Chrisene in on loan in Jan as we had injuries as the back and he was good enough to give cover through what was an injury crisis and probably better than Pickering. But you are correct in that many others just aren’t ready and end up learning on the job. Branthwaite and Harwood-Bellis both looked ropey to me and yet a few years later are now better than what we have. They probably are two examples where we didn’t get a great deal back from them from the loans, but we did massively benefit the player, their parent club and their careers. What I don’t like is that, unlike 15+ years ago, football is not in a place where if you get a successful loan you can buy them in the summer. With the stockpiling of home grown players at premier league clubs and the inflated prices it’s always likely to be a one-season deal. Ultimately though, without a big budget, it’s an area we have to act cleverly in.

In which case if they dont improve the first team dont do them. But you can’t question the logic of loaning the likes of Elliot which is where Rigger and Abbey seem to be.

@jim mk2 is right on this one. Of course we would rather develop our academy more than other peoples youngsters, but the aim is also to balance that with achieving the best possible finish in the upcoming season. Bringing in the likes of Van Hecke or Elliot, which improves the first team significantly, is clearly a good move. It brings in a better calibre of player than we could afford just on transfers in. There’s plenty of clubs who have got out of the Championship with a team containing numerous well-sourced loans. Who is to say without the loan of Adam Armstrong that we would definitely have got out of league one. Good loans could also be the difference between staying up or going down. However they have to be regularly in the first team and a definite improvement over what we can field. I’m not sure playing Ayari and Moran benefited us much more that had we blooded Gilsennan during the season, and hopefully whoever scouted the likes of Mola is no longer at the club.

Wonder what Burnley will do with Trafford. They would either need to cut their (big) losses with him or re-instate him as number one next season. Can't really let him rot on the bench at his age and the fee they paid. Once a flapper, always a flapper hopefully.

Will Kompany come for any of our players 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’ve tried to be as fair as possible. For example Bolton early bird renewal was even cheaper but I’ve looked at it as a new customer. At Burnley the entire Jimmy Mcilroy stand Lower (behind the goals opposite the away end) is £352 as well as the ‘accessible corner’. I’d say our early bird is competitive. The phase 2 and 3 prices are too high, especially the Riverside, which should be £300 standard in phase 1 and be £20 max all match days.

Early bird no. If you decide to buy a ticket before the season starts then yes. Comparing Cheapest area (BBE, Riverside) Mid-Priced areas (JW wings), Expensive areas (JW Central) again other local clubs with 2 or 3 differently-priced areas. EARLY BIRD END OF JULY

I see there are 3 phases now. Phase 1 - Early Bird Phase 2- Buy one before Sky announce how many fixtures are being moved. Phase 3- The cat's out the bag now. Might as well screw anyone else that hasn't bought yet.

Even when the tweet was live the link the the LT article was broken.

First obvious WTF is that after the early bird ends, the price of a ticket for a 12 year old more than doubles to £120.

Post now deleted. Implied it was slightly cheaper than last year in the ‘bottom bowl’ for renewals. Think it said £349. Plus some kind of Riverside ballot. However the link to the article didn’t work.

“Family Stand adult season ticket renewals are priced at £315 during early bird“ So a single adult is £375 or £395

Blackpool now announced at starting from £395 early bird and £425 ongoing for new season ticket holders. Matchday prices from either £27 category 1 games or £31 for category 2 games !! Waggot will like the sound of that for league one. https://www.blackpoolfc.co.uk/news/2024/may/20/2024-25-season-tickets-on-sale-now-/

Plus Oxford playing a final at Wembley distance-wise would be similar to us playing one at Leeds.

Never mind lads, you can always remember wildly celebrating on the pitch after beating Barnsley last week.

Looking like no Bolton in the Championship next season unless they can turn this around, and they’ve been abysmal so far.

Yeah it was difficult to put everything in as some have discounts for renewals and some don't, so I did it from the view of a new / lapsed season ticket holder looking to return. But you are right, Bolton's renewal price was £249

North West Football Early bird price and standard prices. Cheapest stand - Mid prices stand - Expensive stand.

Looking at social media, I think their promotion party was 48 hours long at Vardys’s house during the week before the game. Had they not secured the title I’m sure their preparation would have been very different. Having said that, the same applies with Norwich at Birmingham.

We did break the British transfer record for Sutton in the summer of 1994. Cole moved to United in January 1995 and broke it again.