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Yeah, but even good teams have off days, and we still failed to win that one! I just don't think we're a team that can produce consistently good performances under TM. We'll get the odd good run when playing poor or underperforming teams, but in the long run we just aren't very good which is why we are where we are.

The cynic in me would suggest that it's not so much regression and more that Brentford are just playing a lot better than our last two opponents.

Just finished Revolution, spoilers ahoy... Maki Itoh/Britt Baker Vs Thunder Rosa/Riho - fine as a pre-show match. The tiny Japanese female wrestler gimmick does nothing for me so Itoh and Riho don't hold my interest. Rosa is fantastic but should be in a program with Shida already. Britt Baker is a great heel. Young Bucks Vs Jericho/MJF - I've been cold on this feud since the beginning due to AEW's bizarre booking of the Bucks. I have no idea what their motivations are or whether the audience is supposed to like them or not. They had a period of beating up/superkicking announcers and other face characters before they won the titles and since then have had an on again off again thing going with Omega which has been pretty confusing. They've been booked in storylines that are meant to get the audience to sympathise with them whilst ignoring their past and recent actions... I just don't get it. I'm also soured on Jericho due to him being a douche outside of wrestling. MJF is still great. The match itself was OK. Casino Tag Team Battle Royale - a bit of a cluster, but entertaining enough with the right team going over. Shida Vs Mizunami - I know little to nothing about Mizunami, so I wasn't really invested as it was obvious Shida would win. AEW has an over-reliance on Japanese women when it comes to their women's division which leaves anybody lacking knowledge in Japanese women's wrestling feeling a bit left out. I didn't understand why all the heels ran away when Thunder Rosa appeared. She's not exactly a colossus so it's difficult to conjure a logical reason for their sudden panic. Miro & Kip Vs Orange Cassidy & Chuck - Miro is really being wasted in this feud. His pushing Orange into Penelope is hopefully signalling the end of this storyline though. I couldn't care less about Chuck or Kip in all honesty, but Miro and Orange should both be doing better things. Adam Page Vs Matt Hardy - A solid mid-card match which didn't overstay its welcome and had the right person going over. They need to move the Page/Dark Order story on a bit as it is going nowhere at present. Face of the Revolution Ladder Match - I don't watch Impact, so the reveal of Ethan Page did little for me as I had no idea who he was. The match itself was fun with some great spots, although I was surprised to see Scorpio Sky going over. Christian Cage reveal Hugely mixed feelings about this. Don't get me wrong, Christian is a very talented performer who has a good look, can still work and is excellent on the mic. He's a good get for AEW and will enhance their product. With that said... he simply doesn't live up to the hype. He is not a "game changer" and nobody is going to see this and say "wow, Christian is in AEW? I gotta check that out!". This kind of hype should be reserved for people who can genuinely move the needle - the likes of Jericho, Sting and Moxley fall into that kind of category. Christian falls into the Matt Hardy, Jake Hager, Miro, Brodie Lee, Pac category of "former WWE mid-carders who should have been used better". Worthy of a surprise reveal, sure, but not with this level of hype. Personally I was pretty disappointed and I'll take what AEW say in future a lot less seriously as a result. Sting/Darby Allin Vs Brian Cage/Ricky Starks - I think the cinematic format works sometimes and not so much other times. For me this was more the latter. A lot of this could have been done in a non-cinematic match. The camerawork was more distracting than interesting to me, and the announcers playing it off like it was live when it was very obviously taped was weird. Darby being painted up like mini-Sting did nothing for him either. I don't really know how to rate something like this but it's not something I'd go back to watch again. Moxley Vs Omega - the match itself was solid, although I find the "exploding" gimmick pretty laughable. Parts of this came off more like a comedy match to me, whilst other parts were more hardcore and gory. The pacing and flow of the match in general was good. The idea of the ring "exploding" after a certain amount of time was strange to me. Why would both wrestlers not just leave the ring before that happened? Why stay inside it at all when there were no count outs anyway? As for the ring "exploding" at the end... wow, they didn't half screw that up. I genuinely thought in the immediate aftermath that in storyline Omega had purposefully made the final explosion weak and silly to either cover himself in the event he was for some reason still in the ring, or just to troll everybody thinking there would be a huge explosion only to be greeted by sparklers and a couple of bangs. But no, it was played off as being something crazy when it very obviously wasn't. I liked Kingston coming out at the end to protect Moxley, but obviously it made no sense for him to appear KO'd due to a few sparklers going off at ringside which weren't even a tenth as powerful as Kane's usual in-ring pyro. I also thought it made the rest of the babyfaces look bad for not coming out to help. Granted this is a common problem dating back decades in wrestling, where babyfaces are suddenly nowhere to be found when a fellow face is taking a beating, but Kingston of all people being the only person to come out to try and help isn't a good look for the rest of the locker room. Some can be excused due to being involved in previous matches, but for the rest we're just expected to not think about it. That's the kind of lazy booking I hate about WWE, so I'm going to criticise AEW for it as well. Overall the show was alright, but AEW could and should be doing much more with the talent they have. Ideally they should stop bringing in new face after new face and focus on the talent they do have, as too many are getting lost in the shuffle making it hard to care about anybody.

I'm watching through Revolution at the moment, apologies to @Dreyski, I was expecting a much bigger announcement from the way AEW hyped it. I'm enjoying Revolution so far but this was a TNA-esque disappointing reveal. In fact, keeping in mind Christian was one of TNA's first major ex-WWE signings it's a bit like history repeating itself.

Mowbray wasn't leaving before the end of the season anyway, so I'm thankful for any wins that drag us closer to the 50 point line. Fairly sure he'll still be here at the start of next season as well, regardless of where we finish. He's surely one of the safest managers in any league, able to openly discuss how he is immune from results that would get any other manager sacked.

A much needed result. Difficult to read too much into the impact of Armstrong's absence as it was only one game against poor opposition. We'll see over the coming matches whether we really miss him or whether his selfish tendencies are genuinely having an impact on our team play.

Evans is some bad luck charm for us... I'm sure we have lost almost every game he's started this season. He gets dropped today and what do you know... The result (assuming we win from this point) changes nothing as far as Mowbray is concerned, but gets us 3 points closer to safety, which is all that matters for now - especially considering the matches we have coming up which are likely to yield a low points tally.

I don't think there's any chance it's Christian after hearing Khan speak about it. Definitely a bigger name than that. I think Kurt Angle is the best bet, based on all of the clues so far. Lesnar a possibility too as he's a pure mercenary and not under contract with WWE at the moment. People are speculating Stone Cold and John Cena but I'd say both of those are close to 0% possibility.

Honestly I'm surprised Aldis has never been in WWE. His look and style seems like it would click there pretty quickly. I'm kind of glad he hasn't gone to WWE as there's a big chance they'd use him incorrectly, but McIntyre Vs Aldis would be a great feud imo. To be fair to AEW, they usually deliver on their promises and rarely bait and switch on anything, so I expect it will be a big name 'legend' of some kind - not Big Show either. Long shots - Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, Batista, Kurt Angle. Batista has already ruled himself out I believe, and I don't see Lesnar moving anywhere without Heyman. Punk or Angle are more realistic possibilities though.

With all due respect to TM and his optimistic outlook, I highly doubt we're going on a 5 game winning streak any time soon considering after Millwall we have Swansea, Brentford, Bristol City and Norwich. We might get a win against Wycombe but are then playing Bournemouth and Cardiff, so, fucking lol and we'll be lucky to have more than 3 or 4 points from those fixtures combined.

It would be difficult at this point to get in somebody who would deliver worse than 1 point from 21 available. I mean, I get the concern, but under that logic we'll be stuck with Mowbray forever and looking at this season's regression we could be back in League 1 before too long. At the very least we can hope to tread water in the Championship for a few more seasons whilst our debts continue to increase and our non-playing assets are sold off... whatever way you look at it a change needs to be made.

On February 19th, yes. Not sure what he's seen since that time to change his mind, if he has.

Mowbray is doing the same thing all managers do when the end has come, coming out with desperate excuses and lashing out. We saw it with Bowyer as well. Managers just start losing the plot when they realise they're in a hole so deep they can't see a way out of it. TM needs somebody to put him out of his misery so that he and we can move on.

Doing what? They've already hired Cook as manager. Reading... not won in their last three home games, and we couldn't even lay a glove on them. Abject.

If anything they're lucky there isn't a crowd right now as I don't think he or the team would be getting much positive encouragement after our recent displays. It's absolute madness of him to think he can stick around for 9 years, even with Venky's in charge.

Mowbray is basically creating the satire for us at this point.

@Bigdoggsteel looks like NWA Powerrr is coming back next month... https://apnews.com/article/billy-corgan-smashing-pumpkins-nwa-wrestling-company-0db57bbf1440b56b13e47abcaf173f52 I won't be paying to watch it, but good news nonetheless. A lot of their roster are now elsewhere though, so it'll be interesting to see who they bring in. Sadly Question Mark passed away recently so he won't be there.

1/21 ... in truth at almost any other club he would have been removed some time ago, during one of the many death spirals we've endured since returning to the Championship, but continuing to stick with Mowbray now just proves the owners really have learnt nothing and either don't care or don't have the time required to correctly assess and run this club. Most on here have known this for a very long time anyway, but then you see the "we need to welcome Venky's back" posts and realise for many fans mid-table Championship with a boring manager is the height of their expectations... and that's very sad. Soon we may be even lower than that, once again "fighting" just to stay in this league. Back to where we started and all of Mowbray's good work completely undone.

Probably going to need more than one shot on target in the second half to get back into the game, let alone win.

Draw is realistically the best we can hope for now after conceding first - and that is a somewhat forlorn hope considering how terrible we are.

Managed to get a team out of this league well over a decade ago - the fact he's still dining on success from so long ago says everything. Since then "how I've always done it" has yielded little success and got him sacked from Celtic (as one of their worst ever managers), Boro and effectively forced him to resign from Coventry. "How I've always done it" also failed to save us from relegation in 2017, and although it got us back up from League 1 with a much better squad and budget than the rest of the division, it's never gotten us close to serious playoff contention let alone promotion from this league. His refusal to accept and address his shortcomings is exactly why he needs to go.

Bowyer's tactical inflexability simply wouldn't have allowed Cairney to play his natural game in CM. He could have been bulked up and coached to track back more often, but I don't think it would have meant much to us in the grand scheme of things to have Cairney in that role. I think he would have ended up stifled under GB no matter where he was played. Bowyer's tactics just didn't suit Cairney at all. In theory his tactics should have worked with the likes of King or Mo Barrow out wide, but we played at such a slow pace (I assume deliberately) under GB that pace seemed more of a detriment than a benefit. We saw glimpses of what could have been with King in the FA Cup, where we played him centrally a few times and he caused havoc against Premier League teams, but we never saw that same style deployed in the Championship. It was fairly obvious King in particular didn't have the motivation for the grind of the Championship under GB's usual tactics, and only seemed to be motivated to play when the cameras were on him against better opposition.

Assume you mean Cairney. Would have needed to play AMC to really be effective and Bowyer's teams didn't have attacking central midfielders in them. Both CMs were generally defensive with our attacking play largely coming from wide areas - which is why he tried to shoehorn Cairney there, but it didn't really work.

Sounds like it was a "mutual decision" between Evans and Lambert, and he's getting a £2m payoff, so Lambo will be reet.

Generally speaking I don't think defence was a huge problem under GB. The GK position was a consistent weakness, but we had solid Championship-level defenders for the most part. The back four of Marshall/Duffy/Hanley/Spurr was good enough for the most part. Bowyer's biggest blind-spot, by far, was central midfield. He was overly fond of cloggers who ran around a lot but produced little substance. The likes of Evans, Williamson, Spearing, etc didn't give us enough, and the undying loyalty to Jason Lowe needs no explanation. Unfortunately Bowyer wasn't tactically astute enough either, and he didn't know how to turn games in our favour regularly enough. Too many draws that a better manager could have turned into wins with some smart tactical alterations during the game. Mowbray is no better in that regard - although he's more erratic in terms of his team selections and attempts at formations. At the very least GB generally played our players in their correct positions, he just didn't have enough creative guile to switch things around when needed. He also had no idea how to implement pace into the side, leaving us as a slow and largely predictable side. I don't rate Bowyer's time here as successful, but I don't think he performed any worse than Mowbray, and considering his lack of experience at first team level I'd say in a direct comparison Bowyer performed better than Mowbray has by most useful metrics. Ultimately though we've never really had what I would class as a good manager under Venky's, so comparing Mowbray to any past managers seems pointless. None were good enough to make us better than the sum of our parts, and neither is Mowbray. Until we have a manager that can do this we'll remain where we are now, in a frustrated, never-ending limbo where brief periods of hope are quickly snuffed out by the bleak reality of being owned by people who simply don't understand what needs to be done to make a club successful.