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Yeah this is much better than being in the playoffs.

Most predictable result of the weekend - nay, the season. "This is what you could have had" ...

What did that help us achieve exactly, and how does it refute anything in my post?

Mmm... Don't agree with booing him but he basically gave us one full season of decent performances split across two halves of separate campaigns, otherwise he was generally poor and not even close to being worth what we paid for him. Not that the fee is his fault, but still.

Scoring a second has maybe made Derby a bit complacent. I don't think they've had a shot this half. Will be interesting to see if they continue to sit back and take the chance that we will fail to equalise.

Not according to the BBC. When I checked on 40 mins we'd had a single shot and it was off target. Now we've had 4.

Edwards has a chequered track record so it remains to be seen if the appointment ends up being successful. Amazing what a few months of good results can do for a reputation mind.

Derby are a mirror showing an ugly reflection of our hierarchy's decision making. In some ways I welcome their success as it casts a damning indictment upon our "leadership" and their decisions.

We knew a couple of serious injuries would wreck us. Also the last three teams we faced were frankly awful on the day. Saints in the death throes of Will Still's reign, Leicester who'd won 1 in 10 and Bristol City struggling with injuries and having been smashed 5-1 a few days earlier. Perhaps not surprising that, regardless of injuries, we look very poor as soon as we come up against a confident side on a roll.

You'd assume Wolves wouldn't have made a formal approach unless they'd been given an indication Edwards is interested. Not sure if he has a release clause or whether Boro can reject Wolves' advances irrespective.

Rob Edwards supposedly been approached by Wolves. Have to think that'd be a big blow for Boro after their best start to a season in decades.

Disaster for us and Toth. Pears suddenly taken off the transfer list, I assume.

So, best case scenario he misses the games against Derby, Preston, QPR, Wrexham, Ipswich, Sheffield Wednesday and probably Oxford as well. Worst case scenario (if 8 weeks) he's also out for Portsmouth, Millwall, Boro, Sheffield Wednesday again and most likely Wrexham again and Charlton. Potentially 13 games out. Best case scenario most likely 7 games. And that doesn't factor in recovery time which probably adds at least a game or two to each scenario. Better hope Pears comes in thinking he has a point to prove.

1-1 now. Amusing side note, just before the break Duffy threw a tantrum directed at Liam Manning. Promptly subbed off at half time. Lol.

Norwich currently 1-0 down to Sheffield Wednesday, would be their 7th defeat in a row. You have to assume they'll be left with no choice but to sack Manning if they lose tonight.

Struggling to understand what anyone gets out of going to the FF meetings if the atmosphere is miserable/confrontational and the released minutes don't reflect significant amounts of what was discussed. What is the point? It's a complete waste of time, and if what we're hearing on this thread is true then it just aids the club in manufacturing a false narrative.

Might be a streaky manager rather than a particularly good or bad one, but considering he's been given a team of mostly cheap replacements this season it's difficult to fault him too much at present. Can't help but think we'd be up there in the top six at the moment if we'd kept Eustace and renewed the contracts he'd wanted renewed, though. With the parachute clubs struggling to get to grips with the league, it's wide open this season. Ah who am I kidding, with Venky's at the helm they'd have found a way to torpedo our chances regardless. Maybe with the usual January special.

There you go - we were just outside the playoffs on goal difference after 13 games under JDT. This season on 18 points we'd be 13th at best, depending on GD, or 15th at worst. With good reason tbf, he was rubbish for us. Done okay at Ipswich but he's their second string goalie - Alex Palmer is injured.

If the hierarchy had their way then we'd have been looking at the worrying scenario of having somebody with zero league experience between the sticks. I don't rate Pears much at all, but he has shown to be occasionally competent in spells, so just have to hope for the best there. Maybe a period out of the team will have refocused his energies a little.

When it comes to away games, it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win. Injury to Toth is a massive blow, have to either hope it's less serious than it appeared and he'll be back after internationals, or Pears comes into the team in one of his purple patches of form. Wharton injury a worry as well. Would be a shame if our lack of squad depth derailed what is turning into a superb run of form. Other than Sheffield United (0) we have the lowest number of draws with just 1 this season. We either win or we lose, no in between. Kind of like JDT's first season, but much lower in the table.

Oddly the Wolves fans aren't having the "knows the club" airtight reasoning. Instead they're aghast.

Shame as I don't think a new manager can do worse, but yeah, at least we caught them whilst he had them in freefall.

We'll see if their absolute mauling by Stoke will be a massive dent to their confidence or a kick up the arse that galvanises them. They'd won three in a row before this weekend and only conceded once, so a 5-1 defeat certainly wasn't on the cards. Perhaps just a blip, or maybe the start of a dip in form. Let's hope it's the latter.

Think they lost almost every match after he was given his new contract.

Fans want the players to share their level of passion for the club, and that's understandable - especially when you have the bond of celebrating goals and victories together. It makes that connection seem stronger than it really is. Some players do genuinely become attached to a club and make decisions more for the clubs benefit than theirs (Barry Bannan at Wednesday is a good example of this very recently), but the majority of the squad sees it as a job that will likely have a span of a few years at most before they move elsewhere. It's understandable from the perspective of the manager and players that they remain somewhat disconnected from the fans - knowing how quickly the crowd can turn on the collective and individuals when results begin to go awry. I imagine you have to detach emotionally to get through those periods without becoming genuinely angry or resentful.