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Huh, you're right, I had no idea he was on the books in the early 00s. With that said, he apparently only played in one league cup game, so... technically his only notable contribution to our history is still being part of the relegation side of 16/17.

Rover the Dog would have been a better shout than Greer. The bloke only ever played in 4 matches that we actually won. Legendarily shit. Indeed, although back then we had a lot more recent legends to call upon. Who has been a real 'legend' at the club in the last 15 years? Nelsen, Samba and Dunn would probably be the only ones who'd come close to making that list for me. I don't consider any player from the Venky era a legend, although I appreciate we've had a few cult hero types like Rhodes and Dack.

I knew he played for us, but was stunned to see it was for three seasons. I thought he'd just been here for one, two at most. Including a player in Greer whose only contribution to our history is being a part of the team that got relegated to League 1 is frankly taking the piss. Shameful to even ask him to line up in a "legends" team. I can only assume they had to really scrape the barrel to fill the slots. Honestly I'm shocked Rudy didn't include himself in the team.

Is that a positive or a negative?

The criteria for "legend" appears to be "played for us at least a handful of times in any capacity, irrespective of talent or success".

This does assume competency and common sense though, which may not be in especially high supply at Ewood these days.

Hmm, might have been more prudent to call it a Classic Rovers XI or something. Not as marketable but closer to the truth. I mean, granted, who could forget Gordon Greer helping to steer us into League 1 in his only season at the club? Fond memories of a true club legend there. Kilgallon's average of 20 games a season as we slowly got worse in each of his three seasons here, definitely the stuff of legend. Tommy Spurr's classic 6 or 7/10 steady performances every match, unforgettable. I appreciate it would be impossible to get a "legend" in every position, but that's arguably not even 50% overall that would come close to the basic definition.

There were warning signs last season with Salah, but he still scored 29 goals and had 18 assists (PL only, a few more in other comps) so you can understand the logic in giving him an extension. Players in their early 30s can decline pretty fast, though, so always a bit of a risk.

Footballers, the very definition of loyalty.

They weren't a fluke, they were just played in fortunate circumstances. Generally such things probably even themselves out over the course of a season though (the Ipswich game, for example, turned out to be an unfortunate circumstance for us where we probably would have won), so the only thing anyone should be focused on is where we are in the table right now and how likely it is that our form will improve versus the teams around us in the coming months.

Boro fans are seemingly up for Mowbray returning. There was one bloke who claimed Mowbray wasn't in good health and so wouldn't be possible, but not sure how reliable that info was. Massive egg on the face of Knapper and Norwich's hierarchy. They were all in on Manning, but there's only so many defeats before the position becomes untenable.

Yeah this is much better than being in the playoffs.

Most predictable result of the weekend - nay, the season. "This is what you could have had" ...

What did that help us achieve exactly, and how does it refute anything in my post?

Mmm... Don't agree with booing him but he basically gave us one full season of decent performances split across two halves of separate campaigns, otherwise he was generally poor and not even close to being worth what we paid for him. Not that the fee is his fault, but still.

Scoring a second has maybe made Derby a bit complacent. I don't think they've had a shot this half. Will be interesting to see if they continue to sit back and take the chance that we will fail to equalise.

Not according to the BBC. When I checked on 40 mins we'd had a single shot and it was off target. Now we've had 4.

Edwards has a chequered track record so it remains to be seen if the appointment ends up being successful. Amazing what a few months of good results can do for a reputation mind.

Derby are a mirror showing an ugly reflection of our hierarchy's decision making. In some ways I welcome their success as it casts a damning indictment upon our "leadership" and their decisions.

We knew a couple of serious injuries would wreck us. Also the last three teams we faced were frankly awful on the day. Saints in the death throes of Will Still's reign, Leicester who'd won 1 in 10 and Bristol City struggling with injuries and having been smashed 5-1 a few days earlier. Perhaps not surprising that, regardless of injuries, we look very poor as soon as we come up against a confident side on a roll.

You'd assume Wolves wouldn't have made a formal approach unless they'd been given an indication Edwards is interested. Not sure if he has a release clause or whether Boro can reject Wolves' advances irrespective.

Rob Edwards supposedly been approached by Wolves. Have to think that'd be a big blow for Boro after their best start to a season in decades.

Disaster for us and Toth. Pears suddenly taken off the transfer list, I assume.

So, best case scenario he misses the games against Derby, Preston, QPR, Wrexham, Ipswich, Sheffield Wednesday and probably Oxford as well. Worst case scenario (if 8 weeks) he's also out for Portsmouth, Millwall, Boro, Sheffield Wednesday again and most likely Wrexham again and Charlton. Potentially 13 games out. Best case scenario most likely 7 games. And that doesn't factor in recovery time which probably adds at least a game or two to each scenario. Better hope Pears comes in thinking he has a point to prove.

1-1 now. Amusing side note, just before the break Duffy threw a tantrum directed at Liam Manning. Promptly subbed off at half time. Lol.