I'll miss Danny Graham. I have enjoyed having him as a Rovers player and he has given us a good return in the twilight of his career. If he wants to stick around and teach Brereton how to hold a ball up and develop link up play it would be much appreciated. Him and Bradley Dack had a terrific partnership.

There speaks a man who has never played football in his life if you genuinely believe he has a portion of blame to take for that own goal. The ball literally hit his head after going through a crowd - where is the blame there? I’d be extremely impressed if anyone had the reactions to avoid the ball there

Yet it did nothing. I was one of them Mark. Mowbray isn’t the same category as Kean. What I offered was my view, and that remains, don’t take away the support for your club because of a temporary member of staff. You are of course free to do whatever you want.

If, after all we have been through, last season was enough to turn you away from the Club then I'd suggest you are over reacting a little bit. Calling people Mowbrayites just shows you aren't looking at it from a reasonable perspective. Yes, the season was incredibly frustrating, but we have been delivered a hell of a lot worse over the past 10 years, and there's at least signs of some young players making their way into the squad. You have probably never seen the Cowley brothers' teams play regularly, he hardly turned up trees at Huddersfield, but the reason you'd buy a ticket for Rovers if a manager changes is because you are a fan of the Club, not the manager. In my eyes letting that overshadow your support is cutting your nose off to spite your face. Each to their own though. Abstaining watching the club because of a manager is pointless.

That defence was crying out for a Pontus Janson in it last season. No amount of training can force a player to put their head to it in a game situation. We just don't have the players for it. Bradley Johnson is meant to be brilliant in the air but I don't see it defensively myself. He's a lost cause for Rovers and clearly disinterested.

Doesn't Ainsworth have a reputation for playing turgid football? I think he's done an unbelievable job at Wycombe but I like the way we are trying to pass about and play in a way which is more in time with modern football. The youth are much better at it than our senior players... I'd always take a manager who has a proven track record of success regardless of the football on offer but I'd much prefer it if we could find an identity of attacking play but that is just a supporters dream I guess.

It's back!! Less than 24 hours after our season ends the infamous "pacy *position" buzzphrase is back. Love this thread.

Despite a rather unlucky own goal I quite liked the look of Carter last night. He got skinned a few times and to be honest Luton's attackers were poor but he dealt with most things well enough. Can't help but feel that Rankin-Costello has way more to offer us going forward than he does at left back. People cried out for Chapman's crosses but he delivered a good few in yesterday and no one got on the end of them. His first touch and pass is excellent too. I like him. Buckley had a decent run about when he came on. You can see the quality in that boy. He did a brilliant first time pass to Bradley Johnson as the ball was coming down that Johnson was far too slow to read. On Johnson - worst player on the pitch yesterday. I'm done with him. I'm enjoying watching us have so many academy players in our squad at the moment, and really do think they are quality enough to come good. You can see that the young lads on the pitch are all steps ahead of Johnson, Bennett, Bell, Williams etc. Mowbray needs to decide what his aims are, if we can't afford to go out and buy players then commit to a plan and give these players the time they deserve. JRC needs to be played further up the pitch, maybe out wide and Buckley needs to play more games in a midfield 3 with Travis and Evans. Does anyone know what has happened to Butterworth? He looked a real player in his couple of appearances a while back and I thought he'd be knocking on the door this season.

It has also been announced that the points deduction will be made after todays game. A loss or draw vs Fulham means Wigan will be relegated. Come on Cairney you beautiful man!

Quite a few, yeah. Nobody is perfect. Not to the level he raves about Buckley though. Point is he's not the only one raving about him.

Yep, and they haven't exactly ran the business their father handed them into the ground either. In fact it has grown, and continues to grow, and they continue to exert influence all over the world with offices from Switzerland to South Africa. From nutrition drinks to genetically modified chickens they oversee the whole lot with an assumed competence, otherwise why would the business be so big? Maybe it is a very slight touch of a superiority complex with some fans that they try and dismiss the foreign owners as incompetent. The truth is they are far from it - they are ruthless business people and once the unseen benefit of owning Rovers fades away they will drop us without remorse. I think the Venkys are very calculated people, who have managed to drive a huge wedge between the fan base and club, and continue to operate in ways that absolves them from any accountability.

Huh??? I reckon it is more of a twitter bot account myself than Mowbray trying to sell a player he starts whenever he is fit.

What did Dack say about Travis? I personally think he is one of the more accomplished footballers in our squad. He needs to work on getting rid in tricky situations but other than that he's a real baller. Can pass, can tackle, isn't slow off the mark, can turn and strike it if needs be. The only thing he lacks is that late run into the box that separates good midfielders from brilliant midfielders.

Order of operations they call it. Brackets, Orders Division and Multiplcation Addition and Subtraction If you stick to that you won't go far wrong

Amazing the clamour that reaches people on the back of a few minutes. I remember the same about Rothwell. A 15 minute cameo won't change my mind about Harry Chapman soon. No doubt he's a baller but why we are shining him up to be a world beater because he put a cross on the back stick (a standard cross by the way, nowt special) is beyond me.

Believe you me, we have the utmost empathy for your situation. We know how it feels. However, we also saw your reactions when similar happened to us and remember that all too well Enjoy League 1

Not even going to rise to that Travis story. About as believable as an honest Venky.

Hahahaha fuck sake, just got the lightbulb one but could only do it after working back from Dreyski's correct answer. The above is wrong, I'm an awful QS, always have been, always will.

1) 9 + 9 + 3 = 21 2) 3 x (1+2+3+4) 3 x 10 = 30 Can't get the bulb one though? Only logical answer is the bulb = 15. (2 x 15) - 15 = 15. In which case Answer: 9 + (1+2+2+4) x (3x15) BODMAS means it is 9 + (9 x 45) = 9 + 405 = 414.

My Grandad has been raving about Buckley for quite some time now. He did the same about Phil Jones many years ago too. I trust him to be able to spot a player. I think practically everybody who watches U23 football regularly all agree that he's a class above. I'll be honest I've only ever watched a handful of U23 games, so I will judge him on his senior appearances, and in my opinion he has shown a lot more than what he is given credit for. He's tidy and is usually in space which usually means he has a good footballing brain.

If you don't think we can attract the likes of Snodgrass, El Ghazi and Mings then you must either not think very much of our club or think far too highly of them 3 players. Out of the lot Abraham is probably the least likely, but that's only after the hindsight of seeing him play for clubs like Bristol City and Swansea, and we are a much better club than them.

Sigh. Play-off final season then. When promoted they had El Ghazi, Bolasie, Mings, Carroll, Tuanzebe, Hause and Abraham. So even more.

If you sign players similar to Villa's there is absolutely no reason we can't get promoted with 5 or 6 loans. They had Johnston, Snoddgrass, Onomah, Tuanzebe and Grabban all on loan during their 10 game winning streak and play off promotion. Personally I am not worried about the idea of that many loans if they are good quality. The only issue with loans is that the following season you are back where you started, needing to get the same quality if not better. Eventually them holes in the squad need filling. Personally I would be looking at getting a goalkeeper in for free - Rob Elliott is out of contract and I'd him. Players like Joe Hart might be pie in the sky but if he's in the local area already, wants a club to revive his career and we need a keeper then it makes sense to at least contact him. He's desperate for a second chance and we are a very patient fan base - he'll get the time here for sure. I don't want my goalkeeper to only be here for one season because of how competitive the role is. It is possible that a goalkeepers mentality may be that, if they are only here for a season, then a mistake will always be judged in isolation rather than as a collective, and even if he is dropped next season he will get another chance somewhere else. When they are here permanently if they keep making mistakes then they are dropped for the forseeable, and you then become known as a Nr 2. It just seems a different kettle of fish to me than loaning an attacking player.

I'd love to see Blues go down but I also don't want to to lose to Luton. However, it would be one of them rare occasions where a loss wouldn't bother me providing that lot got relegated on the back of it.

Bloody hell. You must be an observational guy. You have managed to determine a blokes character, determination and the respect he has from others by watching him perform some pre-match drills. Was it the way he threw the cones down that had you deduce he had no personality?