Realistically a draw for England tonight should see us through? Albeit not mathematically

It was worth catching up on this thread just for this sentence

I mean it was you who responded to my post (that wasn't even directed at anyone) and signed off with an arrogant "Not really difficult to grasp is it.". Don't get shirty cos I had a dig back.

Sounds more like making it up as you go along to be honest

It's only the miserable minority to be fair

I've no problem with the one at the end being given as a pen but as ever with VAR it's the consistency that let's it down

It was only Iran, the same as it was only Algeria and it was only Iceland. "It was only XYZ" has tripped us up or led to dull 1 goal wins for all of my life time. Interesting how Iran went from a robust team who could easily cause England problems to "just Iran" in about 90 (or 110) minutes.

That is outrageous use of VAR

Even Roy Keane likes Richards

At least Iran got a goal back to keep some on here happy.

Every man and his dog could see his gloves shouldn't have gone back on.

Only until Wharton comes and benches one of them

Jordan imo made a very good point that Morgan went all gooey eyed and didn't challenge anything Ronaldo said

Such a shame Scotland haven't qualified. I was look forward to a crowd of Qatari men earing one of these

Heard that one since the transfer window opened Not exact quotes but words to this effect have been trotted out "Shit squad relegation fodder" "Poor transfer window, we wont even have a sniff of the top 6 with this squad" "It doesn't take a genius to realise that WLWLWL will soon become LLLLL" The only prediction that has come true is "if we play like that against the dingles, we'll get trounced" Understandable anger at the Burley result, no excuses for it at all but even before that game you've got a a handful of fans who aren't happy unless they're having a moan about something. Never mind the fact that where we're at currently has exceeded even chaddy levels of optimism at the start of the season.

I think that's a pretty spot on assessment. There's some who arent happy unless they're moaning and have written JDT after the first defeat. However he's done a good job and we're exceeding expectations but yesterday was bad, bizzare selection, continuing to play out from the back when it had screwed us a couple of times already and just a lackluster performance.

Hope someone nuts Barnes in the tunnel

When we play out from the back and we're outnumbered 5 to 2, why don't we just boot long where we have a numerical advantage? I'm all for drawing teams on to you but don't hold onto it when you're going down a dead end.

I'm struggling too. Thought it was just my shit telly

Cos bellend

Agreed. They've dominated and got one chance to show for it.

Didn't Cootes ref yesterday?

He was a nob head at villa tbf but the press didn't get at him till City and before the Almiron incident.

As a nation we either massively overhype players or massively underhype them. An 18 year old has one good game and he's England's future or Hary Kane is average. The press love to ruin English players as well. Theve lapped it up that Grealish hasn't set the world a light at City. Harry Maguire was a laughing stock even when he wasn't playing that bad. As soon as Rice gets a big money move he'll be in their sights. There's an English premium for players that, through no fault of their own, puts a big press target on their back