because Mowbray cant handle players with personality! he's like a P. E. teacher and only pics players that kiss his behind.

wins 1 of the 2 or gets a couple of lucky draws and he'll definitely be here for at least a few more months.... it's ridiculous.

Quite easily thanks (and i was being generous with Nyambe because whenever ive seen him live he's been utter sheeiiiite, same goes for Lenihan!! ) as for gallagher (transfer fee aside) he's just a decent squad player at this level, on his day he can be deadly but sadly more often than not he doesn't deliver, but that goes for most of the team on matchdays really! and its mostly down to poor management and coaching i expect

I don't get all the praise for Nyambe either, admittedly I dont go to many games but I don't think I've ever personally seen him give anything more than a mediocre performance

I'm not going to join the gallagher bashing band waggon, I personally think he's a decent player at this level when he's on form. But as you and others have pointed out... all the talk leading up to the game bigging Butterworth up but then not even bringing him on as a sub (let alone start him) is just fkin bizare.

nothing to add that hasn't really been said already Mowbray MUST go now(well really he should have gone last year...) whilst there's time for a new manager to settle in, assess the squad, do a bit of dealing at Christmas and hopefully get us moving back in the right direction and generate some much needed positive buzz about the place

chaddy likes this.

and all of those memes doing the rounds of chilleni and co. getting physical..... with headings along the lines of 'at least we didn't cheat' (seriously what kind of wet wipe carrying wussies come out with this rubbish) 🐂💩 i'd have loved to have seen us get stuck in like that as we used to pre 2000! then maybe at least we'd go down fighting.

tbf they got it right last time in signing Mowbraykeven if thay may just have been an happy accident 😅) he couldn't really have done much more in his first couple of seasons, but then the wheels came off and he's bee unable to take us to the next step and it's largely been down to his own doing due to poor tactics/strategies and general management so for the first time in the last 10 years not all blame can be put on the owners! they've allowed him to run the show as he(and his cronies waggot, et...) see fit and they've given them a reasonable transfer budget to work with over recent years and just left them to it for the most part it seems.

Great point tbf. there is now pretty much a whole generation of fans that will have no personal memories from the pre Venky era/s I was spoilt myself as a child-teen by growing up right through the Jack walker Era and only having a couple of vague memories from before that. But I did also see the 'inbetween era' when the walker trust and John Williams was keeping us afloat with excellent club management right throughout the club and on a minimal budget! although they did have the best foundations to work from thanks to Jack walkers investments.

as my board name suggests! im just one of those knobheads that rarely goes to games these days and just likes to criticise from afar🙈🙈 (well not that far, i live just minutes walk from the ground)

and yet you still call it "the rovers" 👌 sorry.

my guess is they're currently scouring the free agents bin looking for a striker that will accept our crappy wages. there are a few big and biggish name 'veteran' centre forwards out there looking for clubs, we could do with a bit more experience in the side if we could get one on a short term deal, but that doesn't fit on with the clubs "Philosophy" 🙄 they should look back at last time we got promoted! we had some very good young players coming through then as we do now but without the experience of Hughes, stig, short, berg, berkovich, grayson... we'd never have got anywhere

sorry to just jump on this thread without reading it all through properly, I'm not commenting on the subject matter at all right now just wanted to give my opinion on "screen grabs" in general, and that is that they should be banned and phones should have the action removed. screen grabbing and Sharing private messages and images (usually cherry picked out of context from private conversations) causes so much trouble & embarrassment and in my opinion it's just a horrible sneaky two faced thing to do and makes it impossible to trust talking openly to anybody online these(even with actual friends) 😞 Sorry, little rant over. 🙈

you should be working for the nationals! in 10 years even they can't get communication with the Raos, yet you have a direct line to Balaj himself.

is a mid table finish even an achievement in this league!!!!! for town teams or teams struggling financially... finishing mid table or just staying up in the prem league is a great achievement due to the obscene amounts of money the city clubs spend each year, but in the championship there's only really 2 things you can achieve play-offs or automatic promotion, so other than getting relegate anything else is just the truest definition of Meh! p.s. chaddy I've started noticing your posts a lot lately and im sorry but you seem like an enormous flipflopper as far as your opinions go.

tbf that's just 3 names out of 000s of managers in the game most of which where never 'great players' but yes occasionally it does work and we've been lucky to have a few excellent examples of when it does work

yea there's always a fine line between being strong a strong willed disciplinarian and just being a bully and the likes of keane and souness are way past that line by todays standards. tbh though i dont think discipline is an issue with our current squad though, so I'm not sure where this is coming from. To me the problem with the playing squad lays more with generally poor/sub standard training(which is an absolute disgrace considering the top class training facilities they have at their disposal) rigid transparent tactics with no plan b,c,.... and poor man management skills from Mowbray.

I can't argue with that logic 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏 very frugal 😄

absolutely right

agreed (they all want sacking not just holding to acount) but why does this sunhail bloke get off? not much is said of him but he does seem to be heavily involved in things, especially when money and player transfers are involved.

as much is i want Mowbray and his cronies to go.... All this talk of Roy Kean as a replacement is fkn absurd, the few managerial roles he had he was awful and he's not managed(or even been on a training pitch as far as i know) for around a decade!! can people not remember the absolute shambles that Sunderland became during and after his time there. I thinkna lot of that was because contrary to what youd imagine he was absolutely awful at the player management side(along with all tge rest) (for the record of the top of my head I'd want either someone young hungry and ambioutous like hasslbank or a solid proven manager that still has a lot to offer (and maybe something to prove now) like Hughes but all that said, unless there's real money available to spend, no player transfer interference from the owners(or their representatives) and a genuine ambition to get out of thos league asap! then i cant imagine why any intelligent ambitious manager would join.

easily, they're all very comfortable and very very well off in their big cosy homes, Just a job and another day at work for them.

I can almost here the venks now tearing up their plane tickets for the 'planned return to ewood this season'

or is ir 5 1 4 or maybe just 5-5-0