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He is in no way directly comparable to kean. But he's doing things that are kean-esque. That's all I'm saying. No need to get so wound up about it. He's just another appointment under venkys that is nowhere near good enough.

I think that did turn out to be not entirely true but there was still a lot of dodgy things happening around that time. Still, it was all the fans fault of course. I'll try and find that article about the double relegation.

100% agree.

Mowbray wasn't good enough and neither is this Mon.

It was reported at the time that the year after we went down there were people within the club trying to engineer a double relegation. All to do with betting like.

The problem is they put themselves in the same position as the LET. Access Journalism requires access. If you don't play the game and do as you're told you lose your access.

So like not having a single shot on goal for an entire match then? It's obviously not the prime reason for their ownership but it certainly can't be denied that things like that have happened here at this club.

Even more likely will be to sell them both for less than what they're worth and replace them with a shit loan.

That's what's giving me kean vibes. Obviously he's a long way to go before he'll even get near to being as bad as kean but he's of that mould.

He's alive, cheap and there's an agents commission involved.

Two nil loss in another gutless turgid performance.

Spot fixing as in x players will start the game. Y players will come on at this time of the game.

I think we'll be relegated next year. Regardless of what division we're in.

You have such a naive view of how the world actually works. Believe it or not things are not black and white, there is grey area in everything. I'm not saying match fixing and betting scams are absolutely certainly going on here but to say it isn't possible is totally childish.

I think you've just nailed exactly what a lot of our problems are ther. Toxic positivity.

I'm sure they would if what I proposed was put into action.

Roxy Music - Mother Of Pearl

It was signed off before the start of the season.

All speculation of course but I reckon JDT would have got more points from the games that useless has had. As for Mowbray, he was a dolloper on the scrap heap that should have never been here. Received some kind of bizarre Messiah status among some of our fans for simply not being as shit as all the other managers we've had under venkys. Interestingly a lot of fans didn't take to JDT despite him being the only good manager that venkys have ever employed. Useless is more on par with the rest of the wank we've had in terms of ability. It's his disrespect towards a former Champions League winner that achieved more at this club than anyone else under venkys, all with fewer resources, and his bullshit gestures to the fans to keep your chin up, as if we've no right to be absolutely furious with the situation we're in puts him in the Coyle and kean category. Every single game you play is must win. If it isn't then you shouldn't be playing.

Unless there's gambling involved somewhere....

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Yes, be they bots, plants or just straight up braindeads there were people out there saying we actually had a good January transfer window.

Deliberately.

I don't think we'll win another game all year. Now what odds would you get on that?

That is absolutely beyond naive.