If Birmingham don't win we are still top 6, so it's still a good start to the season.

We could play all night and not score here. Cardiff too well drilled, ourselves lacking enough imagination to break through it.

That was a wank effort Chappers

I know fans love to exaggerate but that's not true. He drew their guy into getting sent off after winning the ball and bursting away. He had a lovely control and pass in the middle of the park on a break away earlier. He is, however, underwhelming overall, especially out wide, and the miss will be costly.

Personally I think we are at our worst when we are just passing it around the edge of the box looking for an opening. Main reason being there is never any urgency, nobody is actually making any darting runs off their man for openings to appear. They just stand casually in place and stroll a few feet to the left or right. Just watch how limited our movement is next time we are in that position.

Terrific cross from Bell there

That red is either exactly what we need or will make Cardiff park the bus impassably. No idea what Tomlin is moaning about, when I saw the replay that's probably a straight red. Just elbowed him in the neck!

Really think without the rain we would have scored by now. Keeps having an effect at critical moments. We need to be able to play effectively in bad weather because there is a lot of it coming up.

Maybe I'm picking up on a small point too much here but it bugs me to see Gally readjusting his hair just before a corner especially when he has only just come on. Just shave it off lad! You're a big bloke, look a lot more menacing to defenders with a skinhead, and none of that fannying about with your hair.

Fantastic touch to bring that down from Arma

Sloppy pass from Del, who had been decent so far, nearly got us in trouble. So Buckley in the mid with Gally, Arma and Rothwell in the front 3?

Is Arma going wide or are we seeing the old '6 ft 4 winger' bollocks again...oh confirmed now, it's the latter. Tbf might be a bit more effective today with the weather and the opposition.

Poor pass from Arma

Ref has to start punishing Cardiff properly for all these rough house tactics. Dolan getting no protection. Got clattered a minute ago and we didnt even get a free kick

We are zero injuries away from no real first choice left back...definitely the priority. Bell played very well last week but is looking wobbly again for me today.

Nobody else in the team is even getting into that position as nobody else is quick enough. Rothwell at a push but never far up enough to be in the position he was, and not a more convincing finisher anyway.

I'm confused...has this post time travelled from late November when he should be fit enough to play again?

Think without so much rain he would have broken through cleaner and had the space to bury it convincingly

More often it means we're not.

After that clash of heads and having been very quiet so far, I don't think we are going to see his usual magic from Dolan today.

Yep, rain not helping his natural game either. This is his biggest test so far. And maybe ours. There's no thrashing on the cards today lads.

Horrible isn't it. Hurting my eyes.

A little luck and he would have had an assist there.

Coral Sports must be on crack. I just had a lot at their first goalscorer market. They've given Brereton 6/1 and Dolan 13/2. Sure, the guy who has scored 2 goals in 2 seasons plus this one so far is a better bet than the guy who has scored 2 goals in just this season so far. (Obviously it could happen, just makes no sense for Brereton to have even slightly better odds)

Important we don't write off Ayala if he doesn't perform strongly today, as it probably is a bit early. You'd think TM must have at least considered giving the start to Wharton instead. With Lenihan out and Ayala not quite fit yet, this probably was the last chance for him to do such a thing and see how he looks in a league game.