A good point in the end. I thought we looked better after we brought our three subs on. I suspect Championship football is going to come as a shock to Poveda and Clarkson who looked completely lost at times. We desperately need seasoned pros who can put themselves about or we are going to get bullied in this League on a regular basis. I thought we looked better with Buckley and Dolan who at least put themselves about. Gallagher looked better in the middle, worked hard and scored a cracking goal. Brereton was awful and for a so called international footballer his first touch is shocking. I thought Ayala was excellent again in the centre of defence and we desperately need to keep him fit. Eight points from the games we've had is a decent return considering the squad we have.

Do you really believe the club is in better shape now than before these owners arrived? Cost cutting is going on throughout the club. If the owners actually showed an interest in running the club and not simply settle for writing cheques every few months we might get somewhere. At the moment we are run like a League One club rather than a club looking to return to the top flight. Fitting I suppose as the only way we will get out of the Championship with these owners is by dropping into League One.

To be honest Rev, I've been far from impressed by Pickering as a defender.

Must admit that I was pleased last night that I went back on my decision not to do away games this season. Thoroughly enjoyed the trip last night - apart from the journey back and the usual motorway problems that seem to accompany mid-week games. I thought Ayala was outstanding in the centre of defence and totally agree with arbitro that Carter should be retained this season and be part of our squad. Playing at right-back he handled most things thrown at him. Must admit that I'm far from convinced about our left-back who seems somewhat one-paced and rather too easily beaten. It was a good team performance with Travis being an absolute workhorse in midfield. With Buckley and Rothwell not having a tackle between them it's left to Travis to do the donkey work and he covered every blade of grass last night putting in the sort of tackles needed in midfield. Last night showed results are everything. Forest fans clearly unhappy with Hughton - even singing 'you don't know what you're doing' at one point when he made a substitution. Rovers fans cheerfully chanting for 'Mowbray's blue and white army' and the usual 'Mowbray is our king' nonsense. Some things don't change - Gavin Ward is still an exceptionally poor excuse for a referee. Some of his decision making is beyond baffling.

The only information we got that was the the required medical support (paramedic ?) was not on site. There was a delay to kicking off as they waited for one to arrive but the game started and was only called off at half-time.

I suppose you weren't at all bothered when we beat Spurs and won this Cup under Souness. Last night wasn't the most embarrassing defeat that I've seen in this competition - that would still be getting thrashed at Ewood by Ken Furphy's Workington. Nonetheless, if we can't beat Morecambe at this stage and the awful performances of so called key players like Brereton and Pickering etc. causes me huge concern. The fact our manager was completely out thought by a guy who has only been in charge of Morecambe for a matter of weeks is another concern. At the end of the day any club should be looking to make progress in cup competitions if only from a financial point of view. To be just 'concentrating on the League' in the second week of August is so dispiriting. Where is the ambition? Where is the dare to dream attitude? Sadly, a decade of Venky's tenure seems to have destroyed all of that and now it's all about survival - not just as a Championship club but as an actual football club.

Morecambe deserved their victory tonight. Their manager brought on two subs at half-time, switched his formation, and caused us no end of problems. Mowbray again tried three at the back and once again it failed - just like every other time he's tried it. This was like so many of last seasons games - slow build-up, passing sideways, backwards and then a long punt upfield to nobody in particular. We started brightly but quickly ran out of steam - which is a worry in itself. We carried little or no threat going forward with the Chilean version of Brereton being replaced by the usual Bambi version who struggled to keep on his feet and continually gave the ball away. Without Armstrong's goals I really do fear for us this season. It's certainly going to be a long hard winter watching this lot. Far from convinced. From the games I've seen thus far - admittedly only pre-season and the two games this week, he looks a slightly slower version of Bell. I thought he was awful tonight and caught out of position far too often. Going forward he seems to offer very little and his crossing seems just as erratic as Bell.

I remember that game Tyrone. At that time First and Second division clubs fielded their second string and Third and Fourth Division clubs fielded their first team. On the back of a defeat, Quigley selected the First team - partly to build up a bit of confidence - and they crashed to a defeat. Got to say that was a far superior side than the one we have at present. What would I give for that midfield - plus a proper left-back who could tackle and defend!

My memory of Barton was that even when having a good game, he was always likely to make the most horrendous and costly error. He went from an ever-present in 66-67, when we finished fourth and enjoyed a decent season, to becoming the regular back-up to Adam Blacklaw, the old Burnley favourite, the following season. Not the tallest, to say the least, and somewhat portly in build he nonetheless carved out a career that lasted over a decade with Preston North End and ourselves but was mostly spent playing in the Central League. Happy memories of a time when supporting Rovers seemed so much more enjoyable than today.

He attends every game - home and away - as one would expect him to do. Usually at Leyland for all Under-23 games.

Some clubs didn't produce one last season in the Championship and I believe that there are a number not producing them this season.

Personally, I'd rather go with Magloire or Carter in a back-four, alongside Lenihan, and forget about Ayala. Yesterday they both looked uncomfortable in Mowbray's attempts at a back five. Ever since he came Mowbray has tried the three centre-back option and can't get it to work with the players we have - or perhaps it's a case of the players not understanding what he wants. Whatever the reason, Mowbray's overcomplicated systems tend to highlight the weaknesses in a player rather than try to play to their strengths.

1. Will leave in the summer of 2022 if Mowbray goes 2. Yes. Will be here until his contract runs out. 3. Kaminski - he'll be the one with most to do during the season. 4. 4th from bottom would be great but I fear it will be below that unless some serious signings are made. 5. One of the three who were relegated last season.

I thought we were awful today. The back five just didn't work with Carter and Magloire looking lost at times. Magloire seemed to be asked to step into midfield for some reason and then got caught out. The wing back system didn't work at all with both full-backs having their hands full against a lively Bolton attack. Early days but Pickering strikes me as one who enjoys going forward but isn't so hot when it comes to defending and got a bit of a chasing at times today. Hopefully, it's just teething problems as he gets to know the players around him. I know Travis has been ill and lost weight but he looked anything but fit and Davenport really struggled. Again, the system didn't work as we were overwhelmed and outgunned in midfield. A week away from the start of the League season and we looked a disorganised mess for much of this game. I can't remember ever going into a new season with such a feeling of dread with regard to the outcome. I was impressed with Bolton and former Rover Alex Baptiste seems just the sort of defender we need - experienced, calm under pressure and one who won every ball he went for. Pity our manager doesn't do proper defenders.

To be honest I would prefer to see Magloire and Carter being given opportunities this season instead of Ayala.

I watched that 64-65 team and yes it was a cracking side - one of the best I've seen at Ewood. But Pickering wanted away due to the wage situation at Ewood. Local businessmen who had limited finances were suddenly thrust into a situation were it was impossible to compete with the big city clubs in terms of wages. The likes of Bill Bancroft and Bill Fox did a great job - often under appreciated at the time I admit - to keep us competitive on little or no money. John Williams and Tom Finn ran the club superbly on limited finances compared with other Premier League clubs. The owners made mistakes when they first got involved with the club and whilst one could understand initial mistakes the fact that ten years later the club continues its downward spiral suggests that they still haven't a clue how to run a football club. Throwing £20 million a year at it and not coming close to getting anywhere near the play-offs, let alone promotion, is not a sign of good ownership it's a sign of complete incompetence. After 60 years of supporting this club I feel totally despondent about the future of this club. I've renewed my season ticket more out of habit than anything else. For the first time in more years than I care to remember I will not spend money renewing my away travel season ticket - partly due to Covid and partly due to the mind-numbing football that we play. Our squad this season is weaker than last and frankly if we finish fourth from bottom I will view that as an excellent outcome. As many on here will tell you, I've been one that has been prepared to give the owners time to get it right but, sadly, I've come to the conclusion that they will never get it right because they just aren't interested in the club.

At the end of the day all roads lead back to Venkys just have they have for the past decade. Every decision they have made has taken us further and further away from where we want and need to be. If the owners were unhappy with Mowbray they would get rid of him. Clearly, as he is still here they are content for him to continue.

Why are they going to sort it out now Rev? It's been ten years and counting. The names change from time to time - Shebby, Hunt, Senior, Shaw etc/ Kean, Berg, Appleton, Coyle - but club continues it's never ending downward spiral. To change things they have to be interested and that's something they haven't shown since they bought the club. As for the today the main plus for me was being able to go to a football game with friends and enjoy a social occasion. As for the game I thought Barnes and Carter looked good at the back, whilst Butterworth and McBride showed promise up front. The predictable was Johnson and Vale coming off injured.

I've heard that a negative lateral flow test is required for Fylde on Saturday.

After ten years of their ownership we are now more of a League One set-up than Premier League. One might have thought that at some point during the last decade they might have asked themselves why the club has never been near the top six let alone challenging for promotion. One would have thought they might have asked themselves 'what is it that we are getting wrong and how can we change things for the better.' Sadly, we don't seem to have reached that stage and next season will be more of the same and although I've renewed my season ticket, I'll take fourth from bottom now as a result!

Clicked the link but its just the old site that comes up.

My point Rev, is that they are still making the same mistakes as they did ten years ago. They may well stump up another £20m p.a. for the next ten years and we will be no nearer the Premier League than we are today. They've been changing managers and CEO's for a decade and we are still light years away from where the club was when they bought it. Yes we need change at every level but that isn't going to happen until those at the top - in India - start to get their decision making right and from what I can see there is no sign of that happening. PS - Hope you and the family are keeping well during these difficult times.

Which is why the problem remains with the people who appointed Waggott in the first place and who are happy for him and Mowbray etc to continue in position. No wonder the owners are happy to keep them in position to attract all the flak and take it off them. If the owners didn't like the job he was doing they could remove him - in the same way they've done with other administrators they've employed. Clearly they must be happy with the way things are going or they would act.

Agree. You can't compare the present crop with these players. I'm just glad I was able to see all of them performing for Rovers.

I'm sorry Rev but I simply don't believe that the owners were not involved in the attempt to sell the training ground. It couldn't be sold without their approval or knowledge. It's fantasy to believe otherwise imo.