Wouldn’t work in reality OEB. As tomphil says, a lot of ST holders buy out of habit. If they felt their ST had got too dear they’d just stop coming, they wouldn’t convert to match day purchasers, so crowds would plummet. The main reason cup ties see big reductions in crowds is ST holders not being arsed to buy a match ticket. The ST discount has to stay or things really will look dire.

£28. £30-£32 in the JW. For a mid table second division side. (And this fixture is tagged as Cat B, our lowest price category!). If that’s the ‘cheap end of the pricing scale’ for this league be thankful for small mercies.

At £22-£40 we are certainly not on the cheap end of the scale for match tickets. A standard game is usually £30+ in the Jack Walker (most popular stand for match day purchases). Our season tickets at £350 -£500 are also not anywhere near the cheapest. They are actually fairly standard for the league, which is fair enough, but this myth of ‘dirt cheap STs’, ‘cheapest in the division’ still lingers. We used to be cheap and renowned for it. £199 STs etc.. However, they have steadily crept up over the last few years. Our low revenue is because we only sell 9,000 of them with 2/3000 walk ons (plus away support). Not because we are at the ‘lower end of the pricing scale’.

A couple of full (or near full) Darwen Ends a season means they won’t do a Deepdale style simple price structure, as Waggott knows he can charge around £30 (£40 for Leeds) and still have 6,500-7,500 coughing up.

Yes we are Cat 1, but that doesn’t mean we can attract the raw talent. We share a region with 4 big (very big) clubs from the cities of Manchester and Liverpool, as well as all the other clubs in this area. Old Lancashire is THE hotbed of the game. Ergo, a lot of our top talent, I.e. the likes of Travis and JRC are brought in when they are discarded by said clubs, no shame in that as they can be polished. But our reality of a Cat 1 will never the same as a Liverpool or Man City. They attract world and cream of the local talent. We just don’t and won’t ever. However, to have Raya (until this season), Lenihan, Nyambe and Travis as core players, to now have JRC emerging and others knocking on the door tells me we ain’t doing half bad - and in an FFP world it’s a must.

With Gallagher, Armstrong, DG, even Samuel we have options so for me it was a no brainer that he should’ve been loaned out. 90 minutes of competitive football, once, twice a week is what he desperately needs. Playing glorified practice matches at training grounds is not going to develop him one iota. Two years of his career will soon have disappeared and unless there were no takers I can’t fathom why he’s still here.

Hmmm. For all his faults, presiding over an unhappy camp is certainly not the impression I’ve ever had with this manager.

My post was more a reply to Jim’s assertion that they have a ‘better manager’, he hasn’t done much either way from what I can see.

Has Scott Parker pulled up many trees considering he’s probably got the biggest budget in the league?

Controversial that Kamy... the older vintage on here may raise you a (Sir) Roger Jones

Story on the BBC Football page... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-51356850

No I don’t mean chants and the like EiT, as you are right Ewood is very patient on that score. I’m talking general chats with folk at games, around the area etc.

Careful now... The Screen Grabber is quick on the draw today

This made me laugh... Bowyer Ball

Sorry? I’ve been proud to be a Rovers (and football) fan today. I can only imagine the pride his family has felt. The Lenny Johnrose work for MND and the Gary Parkinson foundation are other examples of the game coming together. There’s a world of difference between the famous (and OTT) quote of Shankly which obviously isn’t the case and the view that football is still a community.

But I think today has shown how it very much IS ‘more than a game’. You are part of a community when you support a football club, especially when you see a legend, who lives locally too, suffering and how much goodwill and willingness to help there is.

Parson’s post illustrates what we were saying the other day about ‘leagues’ at this level. We are in a ‘higher league’ than Man Utd ergo we should be bringing superior or at least equivalent talent through. Doesn’t work like that as results can be skewed by days like today when we have half a first team playing and it is quasi-reserve football and not ‘youth’ at all.

Wright-Phillips is Shaun’s son (Ian’s grandson!). Now that made me feel old!

The club needs to step up. Some of the recent ‘tributes‘ to players and managers that have passed away has been shoddy to say the least. This is a living legend and he needs to be cherished.

I always picture him on the bench with Kenny and Ray in that ASICS jumper, him thinking ‘there you go, I’ve set a platform for you boys now’

Now that’s a chaddy post we can all get on board with! A possible idea would be to use the upcoming 2nd Hall of Fame night as a fundraiser.

This site is less frenetic now because you can vent anywhere - Facebook, Twitter, LT comments and on it goes. In 2003 it was brfcs or write a letter to the LT (and you’d calmed down by the time you were putting a stamp on it!). So it was a real tinderbox on here.

Oh aye. This place was horrendous around 2003/2004. The site had to be locked down at 5pm after defeats. First world problems, ay!

Every manager, apart from maybe Hughes (though even he got a load of stick in his first and last seasons, from memory), has had it from both barrels on here, always been the case, probably always will. I mean promotion getting, cup winning, Euro qualifying Souness got it in the neck more than TM ever has!

Birdy’s Ewood Blues for one, Andrew Neill, he ain’t!