From the LT article chaddy posted on the links thread: Caddis is unavailable at the moment for fitness reasons really. He is working twice a day every day and he’ll be ready soon.”

Very serious. I'm telling him why they aren't going to go on general sale. The club will believe that the away end will sell out (rightly or wrongly) and they don't want their fans in the home ends. Plus there are thousands of glory hunting Liverpool fans in modern day Lancs, and some of those may well try and get a ticket too, so it is made database only as standard for this kind of opposition, pretty simple really.

Because it's Liverpool and they will in all likelyhood sell out their allocation, they won't go on general sale to stop the home ends being full of their fans.

I’ve seen tweets from at least half a dozen fans that I know for a fact go to every single game. I’ve had the quotes confirmed by my supporters club that were at the services, I know them personally and they are the absolute best of our fan base who spend a fortune and a hell of a lot of time supporting the club every single weekend, so they were rightly upset by a disgraceful outburst, considering they were just chatting politely to the rest of the squad. So please withdraw your posts BDS.

I know plenty that heard it directly as they travel with the supporters club I go with regularly. He said it, it wasn’t tongue and cheek and those at the services heard it loud and clear. Many of those at Port Vale spend a fortune, every weekend, ten months a year supporting those lads and that outburst was bang out of order and massively out of step with the atmosphere that Mowbray has helped create between players and fans. So I imagine Mogga is as annoyed as anyone.

Plenty in the Darwen End, I’d imagine, not many elsewhere.

I’d wager you are in a small minority on that one, but fair enough, wouldn’t do for us all to be the same.

Yes, proper fans. Not a glory hunting United fan who’s never been to Old Trafford, so he’s no real connection to his club side. Or someone with a loose connection to Rovers, who doesn’t really give them much thought, but as they are the local team would identify with the club. Those two types of person I would expect to put England World Cup over club success. Alternatively, Rovers nuts, like the saddos posting on a club forum on a Saturday night - vice versa.

I would say most on here would share my view, as would most Rovers fans I know. Players are largely mercenaries, so of course they would see the World Cup over success for one of the half dozen clubs they flit between. To be honest, until this debate got going I assumed most ‘proper’ club fans, I.e not those that come out of the woodwork for a £10 Oxford ticket or those plonkers walking around in United shirts were of my view too, a fair assumption to make considering the ZERO interest in the England team until a month ago, so I’ve learnt something from this thread.

Blackburn Rovers is a major part of my life, part of who I am. I’ve lived and breathed the club everyday since being about 6 years old. I watch them home and away, I know dozens of like minded folk and it is our absolute passion. England, don’t give them much thought, but do enjoy watching the summer tournaments and hope they do well. So why on earth would I prefer success for that team over the betterment of Blackburn Rovers? I just don’t think of that institution in the way I do the Rovers. It’s not a binary choice, both co-exist, but there’s only ever one winner in my life.

I must be missing these goals entirely, tell me what the question is and I’ll answer it. But to answer the question I see. Yes, abso-bloody-lutely Rovers in the PL over the World Cup. Think a fun few weeks has gone to a few heads, I’d hardly read an international post on here until a month ago, the World Cup thread was tumbleweed, not exactly full of anticipation for the pinnacle of the game for Rovers fans that is supposedly the World Cup, I’d hardly met anybody who had the slightest interest in international football until a month ago, now I’m meant to believe that we should prefer it to the club we pour our heart and soul into? To quote you Stuart - ‘nah!’.

Indeed Rev. Everyone posting on here about England is already largely ‘ah well’. Don’t recall that a day or two after Brentford, can’t imagine it if we lost next May’s play off final either.

I would, sure it would be a great night. But if someone said to me (God I presume?), ‘you never see an England World Cup win in your lifetime, but I put Rovers back in the Premier League for it instead’, I’d snap his celestial hand off.

Recognise a name on that Twitter screen grab and he goes to every single game, it takes a vast amount of money and commitment and you have a dick like Evans coming out with stuff like that. Fine the clown.

Possibly! What happened to the official version? Banned?

Good point, where is blueboy?

Thought we looked out best last season with Bennett and Smallwood holding, their tenaciousness let the rest of midfield go and play. Still not sure we have the personnel for 3-5-2, but he obviously has a thing for it, let’s just hope we don’t waste a decent run of fixtures in August.

This aimed at me Tyrone? Think we are both in agreement!

It’s not promotion because it’s an achievement itself, it’s for the good and growth of the club. If we’d not got out of League 1 quickly then who knows when we would. A promotion this season could be completely transformational - look at that lot down the M65. If potty Rovers fans like you Stu would rather England win a cup then see Rovers say win at Wembley for a return to the Premier League, then I really am shocked - now if it was World Cup or League Cup, that’s a real choice to make (still Rovers for me, though).

Why? Proud of the country, but in no possible way does that extend to the national team over Rovers - as much as I think this summer’s been great and these binary ‘would you rather? are always a bit daft anyway. Put it this way, it took me till August to get over Brentford, I was over Wednesday night by the time I’d got back through my front door. I hadn’t watched an England match since Iceland up to the World Cup. So it just seems incredulous to me that proper Rovers fans would get more upset about England losing in the World Cup then say we lost a play off final. We know full well that we don’t ‘go for promotion every year’, so if we did fluke a charge this coming season, it would possibly be now or never and could transform our club for a generation, turn it down for England winning a tournament half way across the world? Seriously? You honestly telling me Stuart, putting this fun summer to one side that you give the national team much thought on a regular basis? Unless I’ve got you totally wrong, you are a Rovers obsessive like me, so I can’t imagine the travails of the FA over the years has pained you like the sad demise of this football club? If it has and it has for others then fair enough, but it’s not something I can relate to.

Proud Englishman and Brit. But England over Rovers? No, nay, never!

Are people being serious? If someone had said to me on the way to Doncaster, ‘promotion for Rovers or England win the World Cup’, I’d have assumed the questioner was talking the proverbial! Enjoyed the run of Kane et al, but Blackburn Rovers is everything to me. Like most folk I don’t give England a second thought outside of a few weeks every second summer.

The level of passive aggressiveness from you these days chadster! ?

It's the total non event that it is the third place play off! I doubt they'll be breaking viewing records for it

Silly when folk say ‘well what about China and India, they are massive’ No history of being a football centric nation. Croatia is, and their continued success is remarkable.