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He has had 4 years in the job which is a lifetime in this day and age.3 out of 4 years he has been backed in the market, he has built nothing with the money.Every year it's a different plan by him, a different style, every season at least 6 players he has brought in. Another manager, after 4 years and the money spent would have us in a better position.Its on Mowbray that he hamstrung the club by giving out stupid contracts to ageing and substandard players. Mulgrew case in point one of our highest earners due to Mowbray hardly kicked a ball for us for two years yet we still paying him. Extensions for Smallwood, Bennett, Evans.Too loyal to players that were never taking us to the next level.Pissing money away and you think it is all the owners fault and poor Tony what a bad hand he was dealt. When Norwich got promoted first season they would have had similar budget as ourselves, same with Sheffield United . Those teams had a manager with a plan though.Mowbrays plan is to copy whichever manager wins the premier league.Got relegated to league one and thought he was Conte after winning the premier league with 3 at the back. The owners are the biggest issue but Mowbray has left our squad In a very poor state. Good managers get you promoted from this league.Sheffield united, Huddersfield,Norwich and others did not spend crazy and they got promoted.

This summer you have a point. Last summer included Mowbray been backed more than most managers in this division. Like I said,we have been in the midst of a pandemic, parachute payment teams and teams who sold players were the teams investing in the market. I would love Venkys out but Mowbray should have done a lot better with what he has had to spend.No matter what you say there is no disputing that. 11 players were brought to the club last summer Gav.Do you think we paid nothing for them?

He hasn't been backed this summer. Last summer transfer fees paid out might have been low but Kaminski and Pickering were brought in on permanent deals.A commitment was made to bring Ayayla to the club again that wouldn't have been cheap.6 of the 12 players signed last season were loans but again add them together it still costs. Have you seen many teams spending money on transfer fee since the pandemic started? I haven't and the ones who have have sold players to fund it. I'm not having a go at you either but have noticed you saying Mowbray has no budget a few times and to me that is nonsense, he has had a very healthy wage bill to play with , was allowed to spend 7 million on Brererton and even when Brererton looked a poor signing and wasn't playing the owners still gave him another 5 Million to go out and buy Gallagher. Barnsley last season finished top 6 won't have a budget like ours.Teams like Luton and Preston finishing ahead of us in the table,they won't be paying the wages we do Mowbray want to operate with a big squad so he can change things every week,Like last summer instead of bringing in 6 loan players we couldn't have found a couple of cheap players from league 1 to develop as our own,they probably wouldn't have cost much more than what we paid out for the loanees.This summer the loan market was a necessity but again that comes down to not spending what money we did have correctly. He has had 4 years here and is yet to give the team an identity.Worrying about the opposition every week instead of playing to our strengths.He is a poor manager

Compare our spending to clubs with similar income there won't be any comparison our wage bill and transfer spend will exceed those clubs. He brought 11 players to the club last summer and added Pickering in January. Up until Armstrong was sold we had sold one first team player in his time at the club in Raya. With the money he has had available in his time here the squad should be in much better shape there is no arguing with that and unless you can prove to me it isn't Mowbray in charge of how the budget on the playing side is spent then Mowbray can have no complaints over the finance he has had up until this summer

Why do you keep saying Mowbray has had no budget?This summer yes. But he has been backed every other summer he has been here. Agreed Venkys are the main issue but this no budget defence of Mowbray isn't true .Clubs with similar levels of non owner funded income can only dream of paying 7 million for a single player.

Sky have us lines up with Buckley alongside Travis with Rothwell further forward

Only abroad 3pm Saturday kick offs ain't shown in uk

Just passing on what was said.As others have said the word of Phillips or his representatives isn't binding until pen is put to paper.If a big club are offering a lot more financial security then it's a battle we may not win, no telling what situation Rovers could be in by the time he is 17 if the club continues to be mismanaged as it is currently Find it a bit ridiculous I'm seeing quotes in the paper from the Manager every single day about Phillips (unless these quotes are from 1 interview and the paper is using it to fill space), the latest he could be worth 20 or 30 Millon in a few years he could well but just as likely he could drift to the lower leagues like many highly rated young players before him

Nixon reckons he costs 3 million in compo.Swansea still paying his wage

Asked Sharpe and Crooke about Ash Phillips both said the club have agreed a long term deal with him that will come into effect when he is old enough to sign it

The north water on BBC 3 episodes in and think it is decent.Good cast. Finished 2nd series of The godfather of Harlem thought it was very good

Whst was said about Ash Phillips?Waggot saying he had signed a long term deal?He isn't of age to do that yet.

Thanks Joe .One for BigBar to look at also

He says Ash Phillips had signed a long contract thought he couldn't yet? Says Obafemi didn't want to move up north.

Rumours that Derby will be getting a 12 point deduction,9 this season and 3 suspended.Will put them bottom on -2

He didn't play well last night but not many did until the changes were made. The previous game v Luton he was one of our better players. The same things were being said about Brererton and he is growing as a player.Armstrong also had his critics on here and look how that turned out.

Not one redeeming feature,he can pick a pass as good as anyone in our squad. I will readily agree he needs to start doing more in games but he is a young lad trying to stake his claim his spot and he does have some talent.Last Saturday he was decent enough.Tonight steady in possession and won a few tackles but didn't do enough to get himself into the game and obviously the changes were correct. Butterworth looked fantastic

Buckley played well on Saturday so find it strange you pick him out prior to the match. I'm not claiming he is a super star in the making but this season he has done ok.Find it odd people feel the need to be criticising him prior to this game when there have been worse players than him in other games, especially when the lad has been at the club since he was 6. He played very well in the first half against Swansea I didn't see a positive post by you then and on a whole I would describe his performances not spectacular but steady in the opening matches.So again find it odd you felt the need to post what you did

No you wake up, on his back before a ball has even been kicked tonight. Guarantee you won't be on here with a bit of praise if Buckley plays well

He will be most likely playing out of position? And free pass I have no idea what you are talking about? when he plays poorly he gets criticised. His performances on a whole have not been bad this season, certainly not bad enough for him to be singled out.Again another lovely pass that was part of the move which led to the goal at weekend

The rules are you can lose 39 million over 3 years is that not the case?If it is then even with the Armstrong sale we are sailing close to the wind yes wage bill been reduced but that doesn't benefit us straight away with the accounts it will help us going forward but doesn't cover the losses already made Again name me 1 club prior to Armstrong being sold who has similar income to ourselves that was running as high a wage bill or spending as much in transfer fees, even though so called bigger teams were becoming more reliant on player sales to fund it .Im not saying it's an open cheque book sort of thing but I don't think any argument that he has been well backed in his time .If he is picking the players to be signed and he got those new deals for players who had done a job but there time was up then he Is responsible for the state the squad is in now .

Basically what I am saying is yeah the owners still should have made sure a striker at a minimum was brought in to what we could pay due to ffp but the squad today isn't down to lack of spending the manager has had enough money and time to have the squad in a much better state.The lads who left from the wagebill who were our own didn't contribute enough to warrant what we paid them an awful lot of money wasted.

When have I ever said it is preventing us from sacking Mowbray? I said he should be sacked.But I also think with the squad we have and little money to spend this window which could be due to ffp then it would be difficult to attract any one decent. IV always agreed the way the club is run is a joke my only argument is the manager has had funds that would be the envy of those clubs you mentioned.Thats why it doesn't bother me too much no money spent this window unless on a Maja or Obafemi.Too much money has been spent already for the squad to be in this state Would still sack him

They never sell players easy I can tell you for a fact that Rhodes was wanting out a long long time before sold.Players have been sold in the past on the cheap like Cairney but it is when non owner Money is needed not long after he was sold we were in an embargo Even if that was the case it's the way we should be operating, a trading club not never selling our players because up until Armstrong when the club was under a barrel only Raya has been sold. People can speculate about Dack but the previous window 15 million on the table for Dack confirmed by their assistant at the time and we turned it down.Some profit to be turning down.

Ok and the commitment to contracts for ageing players,some who will have been on good money?