Agreed.Work experience Gestede moving up and still stuck with Pascha and our owners

Sell Brittain for £3 or £4 million and replace him with a kid from Villa's academy sounds about right for Venky owned Rovers

But those big clubs could have bought him in the January for the price Palace did and loaned him back to us like we asked Palace to do. I know football is mad these days and clubs do stupid things but surely if the big clubs your Liverpools your city's Arsenal's etc wanted him they would have come in when they knew we needed money instead of waiting till summer where we might have been in a better position to hold out for more. I think there was something putting them off with him and plus we were struggling last season and even with Wharton I honestly don't think results would been much different so just another few months trodding along with out of form our poor players alongside him. I accept more clubs than just Palace would bid for him in the summer which would have pushed his price up a little but not some of the figures being spoken about Rovers fan or not surely he would have had to have pushed for a move away in the summer especially when Szmodic was sold and we spend peanuts on unknown replacements .We should have been having a push and building around himself and Szmodic .The Whartons are rovers fans they are probably as fed up of the ownership as the majority of us are so for me he would have wanted to move up a level by summer anyway

I'm not missing the point. I was obviously against the sale and its a joke he had to go so early due to us needing the money but I think for the lads own career he would have had to move up the following summer anyway...yeah we probably would have got a couple of million more but not fees like £30 million that's been suggested and it would have been clubs like Palace evertons etc buying him a mid table club.

It would have been paid over his contract, Liverpool City Arsenal Spurs etc etc etc could have put 4 or 5 million on that seasons books without any issue

January or not if the big 6 thought they could get a good deal on a player then they would have been in for him.If they where really rating Wharton and thought 18 million was a bargain they would not have cared it was January. I don't think Wharton was having a very good season ,moments of pure class and quality but in the main certainly December onwards our midfield was being over run and we were conceding a lot and losing I think we would have got a few million more if sold in the summer with other clubs joining the race it wouldnt have been big 6 in for him nor would we have received bids of £30 million like some people here believe

But all the other clubs knew what he was available and none of the big clubs bit, if he was being rated externally as he should have been the big 6 would have been falling over themselves to sign him for that money . They could have done that deal they ain't weren't gonna come in in the summer and pay much more for him He also wasn't being involved at under 21 level yer man from Bournemouth had 2 senior caps and loads of big teams after him, if it wasn't for the release clause Bournemouth would have got more money for him

What we think doesn't matter no club is paying £50 million for Wharton from a championship club. After 30 games in the prem he is worth more than £50 million. The lad Bournemouth have just sold looks excellent and had many big clubs in for him alongside Madrid.None of these clubs came in for Wharton when he was available for a pittance for a player of his quality

It isn't an obsession over under 21 caps it's a valid argument. If he was being seen as the best young player/best young midfielder in the country/outside the premier league he would have been making those squads no question. I can't understand what you don't get here...the under 21s is supposedly for the best of that age group Wharton didn't make one squad so quite clearly he wasn't being rated externally as he should have been. January or not if he was as rated as he should have been then more than Palace would have been in for him at that price.What was stopping all the big clubs taking him?

He has also been capped twice for his country and Is recognised as one of the best young defenders in the country with many top clubs registering an interest. Wharton had only played Championship and hadn't even recieved an under 21 cap.Wharton was never going to be recognised as one of the best young midfielders in the world playing for a championship side.

Didn't gestede say in one of those podcasts that a right back would be a transfer Target this summer Said about wanting competition for Brittain, so if that's the case probably planning on loaning Duru out again

He can't have been that much of a fan of Telalovic as he hardly ever started him . Clearly JDT wanted better

Why gestede said in the podcasts when we sell a player the playing budget won't increase? Why would we want them selling anyone?

Trafford will want the clean sheet and they will want the 100 points.

Since promotion was secured some of the loans they had became permanent deals so it might be that?

Unless they are selling Tonali but i do think they will have more funds this summer but I do agree don't see Wharton ending up at Newcastle

Asante will probably come on and get the winner

He said In the interviews the budget will be roughly same. He outlined the ClUBS plan.Develop and sell with it not making a difference to the playing budget.

Pipe down you I will view my opinion if you don't like it then put me on ignore and stop replying to me. For them to lay the blame at Gestedes door and fool the fanbase in to believing he is the problem it would not only take them sacking him but then investing proper money into recruitment which isn't going to happen.

None of those people you mentioned came out and said the CLUBS policy was to develop players and sell them with it having no impact on the playing budget. Gestede said in the interview when he took the job he was aware that no matter where we were in the table, no matter how many players sold for how many millions the budget for recruitment wouldn't be increased. Anyone with common sense will realise that Gestede is not dictating that policy

I don't think they will be happy with what he said in those interviews. Like I said it's club decision to operate this way not a Rudy Gestede decision. Anyone with an ounce of common sense will realise ousting just Gestede from the club won't suddenly transform us into a club with a real ambition to progress or lead to a better playing budget.

He hasn't taken the heat off the other 2 He has just publicly stated what the clubs model is.Gestede does not run the club, it isn't Gestedes model or policy it is the clubs policy. If anything it puts more pressure on the other 2 as Gestede has told everyone the clubs plan and ambition develop young players and sell them with it having no impact on the recruitment budget. That is the clubs plan/vision which Gestede is part of but he isn't the one who is dictating that model, he said it himself in the interview, he knew his budget and he knew the budget wouldn't get bigger no matter where we were in the table or how many millions we brought in through player sales

We definitely want Preston to be losing today and still be in with a shout of going down after this weekends results with them playing Bristol City in their last game We don't want them already on the beach for that game

He isn't taking the heat off the other 2 or the owners by saying what he has done It isn't Gestede who has decided that our purpose is to develop our academy players and sell them with no reinvestment back into the playing squad. I just don't know what world Gestede Is living in that he believes the fan base should be getting behind such a nonsense model and we should just be grateful that we have a team to put out on a Saturday afternoon or midweek evening He said it in black n White,promotion is a pipe dream that will rely on a lot of luck and the clubs model is to develop players to sell at a profit to reduce what the ownership have to put in year on year just to keep the lights on

Gestede why the fuck can Massive revenue club Millwall sell a young asset to a Premier league club and reinvest a healthy portion back into their team Fair play Eddie for keeping your temper