Anybody else see this...?

If this season’s target was top 6 then he has already failed and wheels will be in motion regardless of this result. If this season’s target wasn’t top 6 then we have bigger problems than Mowbray.

If it keeps us up, yes. Mowbray is going nowhere and if we are relegated I think it will be a long long time before we get back. The only thing more damning than the lack of progress in the last three seasons is the state of our squad after Mowbray has finished with it. This side minus the loanees and end of contracts, and with Armstrong gone would struggle badly in the third tier.

And... But that was a definite penalty!

Where the hell is Bennett playing?

Just don’t see them scoring. After the post and that save from CKR.

I’d say that’s us safe now.

In off Gallagher’s bobble!!

Good grief

“Here comes Gallagher whose hair is flowing behind him” - N Yardley 16/04/21

Now that’s a throwback.

Excellent post. Venkys leaving and giving the club to fans debt free is extremely unlikely in my view as I think they would put it into admin first. If they did though we would follow a similar path to R&D. I’d like to think that fans would rally round and we would get 15,000 fans prepared to pay £350-£400 each. So about £3.5m excluding sponsorship (5000 x high priced). Ignoring any running costs (volunteers?) and tax (maybe find a way for sponsorship income to cover that), 18 players on 2 year contracts for £7m for 52 weeks a year means a flat rate contract 20k per year. Factor back in tax and costs and you can probably half that. Still not bad and you’d have to set up a pay structure. These are the kinds of calculations that people at the club are probably making right now but there are two big problems with that (which are somewhat related). First, Venkys are billionaire business owners who could solve our problems in an instant but choose to put in the absolute minimum, so these costs are a manufactured problem. The second is that fans have been and continue to be treated with utter contempt. A third lesser problem is the ‘brand’ of football from Mowbray - it’s not about entertainment through playing nice looking passes and keeping hold of the ball, it’s about winning football matches. There is nothing entertaining about losing, it’s a necessary evil and the ratio of wins to losses will determine to an extent whether you can blag a great performance despite a defeat. Too many and it gets old, which is why being a football manager is such a precarious and high turnover job. I could stomach the penny pinching and the excuses and cutting our cloth if it was an honest set up where the owners genuinely had little cash but were doing everything they could to get what they could and give it to Rovers. Personally I’d support an AFC Rovers like that. Trying to pretend we are AFC Rovers now with our crap pitch, grubby stadium and schemes to rip up the academy complex while “someone” at the club is taking out £300k. No, sorry, not accepting that as a pauper’s reality.

Like Rev, we’ll have to agree to disagree. He wanted assurances that didn’t materialise. If he had been given the Rhodes money to spend things could have been very different. Instead, it just backed up his original concerns. I trust Lambert’s judgement over Venkys.

Nope we are the positive Rovers fans, let’s have it right. The negative ones are those happy to put up with all this crap.

Touché. But I’d wager that was more to do with Coyle and his doughnuts and table tennis competitions.

He brought in several of the players who we were still relying on two managers later (and helped get us promoted). Wonder if we’ll be saying the same about Mowbray?

With Rotherham losing it’s now in our own hands. Not sure whether to feel comforted or worried!

No disagreement there!

Some of the Facebook wasters are still backing Mowbray. Even defending this latest interview. These are the people who deserve the club we currently have.

Why do you keep saying stuff like this - even at this point? Lambert saw the writing on the wall and didn’t sign up to a deal that he’d be stuck with. He saw through the BS and left with his dignity intact. Mowbray is more than happy to take the cash while Rovers slide down the table. He has become the source of the BS and will leave as one of the least dignified managers in our history.

This man should be nowhere near our football club. Anywhere else here have been sacked directly after the chairman watched that video. Here he gets a free pass from the CEO, the “owners representative”, and ultimately the owners. At this point he must know he has lost the majority of our remaining fanbase but do our sponsors really want to be associated with this club if this is the direction the “manager” is taking it? You cannot afford to think you are automatically staying up, if you do you will be relegated. The only hope is that this is sour grapes because he knows he is finished, otherwise I fear we will be in the bottom three all next season. And that’s if we stay up.

I guess that’s the dilemma. The hope then is that we lose every game but the rest of the teams who matter don’t get enough points. Surviving on the last day on goal difference would be the best - and worst - outcome. Not sure any of us could cope with that mind!

Very big of you to say that but there’s no need. We all comment on what we see at the time and everyone who posts on here (except for the odd guest) are all passionate Rovers supporters who just want to see us be successful. The only thing I would suggest (and this isn’t aimed at you) is that people should let go of historical disagreements and simply discuss and debate what people post and not who they are/were perceived to be.

Exactly. You only have to look at what Allardyce got out of the same group of players that Kean had to see the impact that a good and bad manager have on players.