I was about to post similar sentiment, except I watched the game. I feel nothing. Watching Rovers right now is going through the motions. When Kean was here I was determined that I would out-last him. With Mowbray I cannot see him leaving and nobody cares enough to try to make it uncomfortable for him. As a result we will have many more nights like tonight. Dull, passionless, idea-less. No matter which players are selected (Bennett, Evans??) The outcome is the same and performances are dire. There can only be one person to take responsibility: the manager.

Oh my

What a joke. Sanction them anyway. Points deductions will do.

You’re joking, Neil and Warren were discussing whether Bennett might be here again next season!

“But fast forward 10 years from the outset of anti-Venkys sentiment and a poll of Rovers fans by local media outlet Lancashire Live showed that only five per cent would not welcome Venky’s back”. Pitiful propaganda. Or maybe they mean 5% of the original fanbase because that’s all that’s left.

Locally... advertising. Nationally... they couldn’t care less.

Fascinating really. Some kind of overhaul of the Champions League format is desperately required and long overdue. However, it cannot be a closed shop / franchise. It has to be competitive. We’ve had this debate several times over the years on here and the best outcome seemed to be a combined ESL but with the lowest placed team from each completing country being relegated and replaced with the PL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 winners. Perhaps three from each major country and a single season for each of the domestic champions from each of the smaller nations. That would be enough of an incentive for the top clubs, spreads the cash amongst smaller league winners, and would keep each league included in the European football pyramid. It’s the next logical step. The idea that these teams can franchise themselves AND still be involved in domestic competition with their teams full of all of the world class players is absurd on it’s face. It would make a mockery of domestic ‘competition’. If they want to be protected financially then they have to walk away from all other competitions. The Football League could become a single league authority again in a post-PL, post-money-based world. Bring clubs back to the fans. Fewer televised games, higher crowds, more relatable to genuine football fans. A pipe dream I guess but Pandora’s box has been opened and these clubs have shown their true colours and their true contempt. In other news, I expect there were smiles on at least a couple of faces within Rovers management as they read their newspapers and shipped on their coffee. Oh, and Jose is now available to take over from Mowbray on “Project Journey”.

Have to say, listening to Gary Neville, he really is passionate about the game.

Makes me laugh all of this faux disgust from Sky. As long as they get broadcasting rights they won’t care.

I remember watching him injure himself against Forest with an awful, over-enthusiastic tackle (against Des Walker?) in I think it was an FA Cup semi? If anyone wasted their talent, and didn’t reach the levels they could have, it was Paul Gascoigne.

Course I did but Rooney certainly achieved his potential when compared to Gazza.

Bit of a false premise there. Rooney was a hell of a lot more successful than Gazza. Interesting take on it though that Rooney had to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona to be considered as having achieved his potential. That’s the only reason Ronaldo, and especially Messi are considered greats. Rooney in his pomp would have been a world beater in Spain for either club, and would have won more Champions Leagues than he did. Instead he stuck it out in the toughest league in Europe. Unpopular opinion but I would even go as far as to wager that Messi would not have been as successful as Rooney in the PL. He knew it which is why he ignored overtures from City. The only real criticism is the longevity of his playing career but, let’s be fair, Cristiano Ronaldo is a one-off. A freak of nature considering his physical age compared to his actual age. Nobody else can touch him.

10,000 ST sales is always the target so... 2,500 x £169 = £422,500 £422,500 / 10,000 = £42.25 Not beyond the realms for Waggott to add £40 to ST prices for a single lower tier price and add £50 to JW upper. Maybe some sales target driven rebate to ‘encourage’ uptake. ”Benno has signed a new deal, are YOU committed?”

I thought we already were.

Won’t one have to accept them to be able to read the post? Not having I dig, it would just be nice to know what we are required to sign up to. Is this internet specific, site/provider specific, football specific?

It would be the mother of all FUs if he was to renege on the deal.

Have to say that’s really harsh. Most of his career at the top English club and England’s all-time leading scorer as well as United’s, having also having had the honour of being captain for his country. Won every domestic and European club trophy. If that’s not achieving one’s full potential I’m not sure what is? Should he have won the World Cup?

Why are you inviting individual emails rather than openly explaining what the new terms and conditions are?

Wasn’t it the difference between a ST price and the number of £10 iFollow home games? Seem to remember that a full season missed being about £169 or something off next season? £399 for a ST (including Riverside!) minus £230 for iFollow? (And you got 7 free away games that us disloyal fans didn’t - presumably an offer from the EFL to boost cashflow, and then still penalised clubs for late accounts!)

We aren’t fully out of the woods yet but it is definitely in our own hands. Draws against our relegation rivals basically kills off their hopes. What works in our favour is the don’t have to catch us, just their nearest rival. As it is, if we were to lose every one of our final four matches (unlikely) then this is the minimum that needs to happen for us to go down... ( ) = Games in hand; bold = vs Rovers Results need to be broadly in this order due to the other relegation rivals involved. Rotherham Total so far 40/120 (33.3%) Need 12/21 (57.1%) Or (DL)DWWWD Birmingham Total so far 46/126 (36.5%) 6/15 (40%) Or (D)DLDW Derby Total so far 43/126 (34.1%) Need 8/12 (66.7%) Or WWDD

And the manipulation of a certain set of fans who lap it up. Maybe this is why they are looking to free us from the contradiction that is Brockhall. Our “club identity” is being made out to be as a working-class, terraced-house, cobbled-street town with an earthy, man-of-the-people, avuncular manager steering us to calmer waters following the post-industrial-revolution bust. Imagine having to drive out to the Ribble Valley every day and be reminded of your hypocrisy! The Pride of Lancashire, eh?

Goal C - Johnson. Hit cleanly and it hit the side netting before the ground. The rest were... meh.

He’s 18, had a ST since he was 4. You make a good point about it being about being at the ground. I completely agree, and the BCD rubbish hasn’t helped (it’s not even referred to as Behind Closed Doors anymore it has become so normalised). But he started going when Sparky was here, with big crowds and a terrific atmosphere, singing and chanting, players worth the shirt having their own songs. Even under Allardyce we had a large following. Gradually, everything has just been eroded away, season-by-season. Players, crowds, quality, league position, ambition - even hope. What do we cling to now for the future? Venkys chequebook / bank loan. I really think that someone like Hughes coming back would give us a lift but if Waggott was still here, it would be short lived. We need a chairman who wants to see bums on seats, and success on the pitch as the only gig in town. With Venkys obvious resources, so-called pride, and the club not even breaking even each season, why would they put up with anything else?

My eldest said to me after the game tonight that he is falling out of love with football. He doesn’t even enjoy seeing us win any more. It’s been some journey that Venkys have taken us on and, unless something changes in the Summer to capture the imagination, it’s looking like he will no longer be part of it. It makes me weep when I think of the club we were when I started taking him and where we are now. It’s just relentlessly bleak with no prospects of success. There is no upside. This is a lad who even went on Kean Out protests with me, who loves the club, and has spent almost all of his life going to Ewood. Breaks my heart. Meanwhile, we have owners that don’t seem to care. Who would rather listen to the likes of Waggott and Mowbray than fans who care deeply about the club that they are putting their money into - fans who also put their money in (and emotion) and yet they only listen to people who take.

Can you imagine the utter lack of self-awareness and credibility that you would have to have to sit down, after the run we’ve been on, after the season of failure we’ve had, and type that into a comment box on Facebook? These people are either genuinely and unfortunately stupid, or they are sat laughing hoping to bait someone into responding. Either way, it’s just really really sad. The idea that some people are really hoping that Mowbray remains in charge next season! Frightening.