Really? Do tell!

He also argues that the fans, can't expect much in the way of transfers because our attendances are so low!

Not a concern to this learned poster to the LT: in reply to Gary Ginger Roverend14th July 10:52 pm User ID: 5471465 Agree, Travis, in particular has held the club to ransom way too often now. Get what we can for him and let’s add some pace and power in that midfield. Last Updated: 9 hrs ago

We will move on but we won't move up!

But we should have built on that every season and got stronger and stronger till we got promoted. That's how it works isn't it? Its not a sensible response to argue we've still got some experienced players left. Have we enough of them got avoid relegation? When do their contracts run out? We are sliding into nothingness. I realise I'm on ignore but maybe others will agree with me.

Yes I was just starting to worry but Woakes has fixed me. Great display from Captain Stokes, what a warrior he is. Very long spell at his age and given his injury history. Always leads by example. Assuming we win next two tests will be seismic.

Wow! 112 for 8. Surely we will win now!

Could go either way but we must be favourites right now.

Its amazing how many greedy, selfish and disloyal players we've had in recent years!

the ones we're selling!

We can rarely "know" these things but I think I've got a pretty fair idea! One big clue---he hasn't signed!!

Our 5 best players last year imo were Baath, Dolan, Tronstad, Travis and Brittain.(in no particular order). We've already lost 3 of them! PS--would have included Beck in a top 6 but obviously he was always a one season job.

42 for 2, wicket very difficult. In a bit of trouble.

Edited!!

Hm--he wasn't great success but that doesn't mean Exiled's point isn't valid. You may have missed it but Sheff U went up! EDIT---shit! I forgot! And I watched the game!! They got as close as it gets though! Going away to hide for a few hours!!! So the point now is, it doesn't matter how much you spend on loans, you won't go up! We should do well.

its not promotion money is it?

Depends on how much they hope to get back from selling our best players?

Duckett out waving at a ball going down leg-side after doing all the hard work. 43-1.

Crawley on 1 and doing his level best to get out. Beaten every ball in current Bumrah over.

Thanks to Venkys who relegated us all on their own. Most championship clubs require funding from wealthy owners but our wealthy owners think we can fund ourselves, while giving our best players away!

the fact that he is in the last year of his contract and no new deal seems in the offing. Plus--how many others have we lost in this way in recent years? Yo\ur moniker says it all.

It just seems normal to me now.

Yes.The quality of the player means zero. Its all about them costing too much!

Every year we get weaker Chaddy. We never build by keeping the best and replacing the weakest. We do the opposite in fact. Its a miracle we got so close to the Playoffs but if we'd done what I'm suggesting we'd have walked it. There is no plan, its a season to season operation depending on what money is available. Now money is very scarce and we are gambling. We can't go on like this much longer.

You are always free to leave. Not negativity but painful realism. Sinking lower every year, why should you expect optimism?