tomphil

Yes that's right nobody will come to manage England that has any decent pedigree at all. Maybe they should contact messers HSH.

You're not his agent as well are you ? My god you need to google 'glass ceiling' and 'over achieved' . He needs to get gone soon as !

Had w got humped that day most of the crowd would have been howling at the final whistle. I wonder how many of those were berating him and venkys by the Wigan game ?

I don't think you're taking in the whole story here but fair enough it's your opinion and i do give them grudging respect for seemingly seeing it through money wise. However saying it cost them as much as it cost us and they suffered i have to take issue with. They weren't Rovers fans they probably hadn't heard of the club until Anderson thrust it in front of them. They didn't understand it all so couldn't possibly have the same feelings as fans i'm astonished anybody could think they suffered similar. They got involved for other motives and to them it was and still probably is just money. Yes it's cost them an absolute fortune but it's just spare money they would have thrown at something else. It might be on a VH group balance sheet but in all intents and purpose it's written off by them. With their assets and turnovers they can replace that if they wanted to but you cannot put this club back where it was. Nor can you write off all the angst and division it has created for hardcore fans. Never mind the clear economic impact on the town and Ewood area. So no, they didn't really suffer like the club and fans have.

Willful negligence and arrogant we can do it better ourselves have played a big part. Alongside staying complicit with proven incompetence just because they liked them. Very hard to have total sympathy. If you really are great business people you don't smash something to pieces that is already working. If it ends up that way through a series of events partly beyond your control you very quickly get on top of it and revert back to what was working before. Or cut your losses of course. What you don't is bury your heads in the sand and leave it to chance just hoping - and praying - that it suddenly gets better. It took about 7 years, a 150 million, 2 relegations and 3 audits to finally return to something resembling a functioning British professional football club. Some of that was just down to getting lucky with finally landing on a bloke who fit what we were at the time. So the sympathy vote is on hold.

Dire atmosphere as well for a small ground.

Looking at that you could argue we really need promotion this season ! I just know we'll end up with Evans and Bennett first to be signed up again.

You'd have to pay a fair price for lifelong NDA's i reckon but might be fair to assume 20-25 years or something. If that is the case they've got it well covered. Sadly i think most of those Rovers suits will take it with them to the grave rather than be bothered opening cans of worms. A few probably still get Harrods hampers at Christmas. Another revelation on here is tantric allegedly getting 5 million from each side that's outrageous i thought he was on a million quid finders fee from both sides. That's bad enough but probably standard for that kind of thing, also i recall Kean and his contract bonus for an extra 3 million on top of his c 3 million wages etc. What he hell was all that about!

When 3 rd party ownership was mentioned on here back then it was often shot down in flames but it came to light from that the club was actually under investigation for it. Nothing else has come to light apart from confirmation Kentaro did actually have a contract to run it from day 1 which is bad enough. It still seemed back then very much like a joint project by a big group of people with the Venky name over the door. I remain convinced that for a while at least other investors were on board and whiff of joint ownership was thick in the air for a while.

He got a few stories out of it so i'm sure he's happy but fair play he's obviously not that devious. If he was he could have ended up a director with a nice pay off at some point.

Agree and i suppose age might be a factor some of the replies seem more the knee jerk facebook group type. To imply people are hating on Evans because he had his face smashed in and might not quite be the same is a bit of an insult. If he ends up second half of this season in a midfield partnership with Travis or someone and he's playing well week in week out and we are winning nobody will be complaining. He'll be getting the plaudits and a new contract and we'll be reaping the benefits. Long term though we'd likely be having these same conversations this time next season and that's the whole point in regards to that player. The midfield needs shaking up and changing permanently because as is proven odd little spells aside his type of player doesn't actually help our defensive record nor creates or assists virtually anything.

Nothing that most didn't already know and not much more meat on the bones i'd love an off the record version. Main thing that jumps out from that was how quick this MB was to suss out the Kentaro running the show angle and how long it took the penny to drop everywhere else. I'm referring to people not ITK as well it was obvious to a blind person what was going on. Also the Samba scenario and the Barclays ten million i'm sure we had people on denying the real reasons for all that. Interesting about the transfer of liquidity limit i don't recall that being put forward as a strong reason for the taps being turned right down on here. It was all FFP or they aren't wealthy enough really or of course punishing us for a snowball. Probably the worst nonsense ever pushed on here and that's saying something ?

Definitely only one of those who pops up after a win. Then trawls looking for something negative to highlight.

The term hate really needs clearly defining on here for some. If someone doesn't particularly rate a player going off what they've been paying to watch for years it doesn't automatically mean they hate that player or person.

People's opinions on Evans are mainly football related and based on the last 7 years. He isn't a bad player on his day but it's time for the team to evolve. That means moving people on especially in a position that's being increasingly well covered and has badly needed a real upgrade for years. He's neither good enough nor fit enough on a regular basis to be in the side. That's before any on the NI stuff. Most of the posts are reasonable enough and the same things have been being said for years. Nobody is picking on him because of his bad injury. Virtually everyone expressed dismay and sympathy at that at the time. But of course the regular MB protagonists chose to ignore it and focus on the negative. Let's give him another 2 year contract then so they can sleep at night.

Never been down there was scheduled to go in the cup that early kick off when i think Samba made his debut. The night before got out of hand though so i missed the transport. Think we won quite comfortably but i don't think this one will be as comfy we are often useless just after these breaks. 0 - 0

What an apt day for that to come around 10 years on Friday the 13th, a true horror story for any long standing fan.

Agree but i think Mowbray operates with all this in mind hence the number of mids he's collecting. There's more to it than tactical rotating he's carrying some to compensate the regular absentees. Look at Trybull he's just Evans mark 2 but probably not even as good but he's there i think to cover Corry. We all know Tone will play along with the international stuff as well so wouldn't be a surprise to see him keep Evans, not his money after all. We do seem to have a policy of signing these types and probably because it makes them getable to the likes of us. Can't be any surprise when at any one time there'll always be 2 por 3 missing with just knocks and strains. Plus this seasons workload and summer time off puts extra strain on it. Nobody can help that. The insurance policies must be high at Ewood though.

The lowest point in a tidal wave of lows Dunn looked like he was enjoying it though ?

No room for sentiment if you want promotion and lathering another good contract in his direction goes down in the sentimental section now for me. He's been unlucky in many ways but he's been lucky in others like being at a club happy to coast along mostly whilst being one of their highest paid. If he's a third choice midfielder on money reflecting that fair enough but it doesn't really work like that here with the rotating.

Yeah it seems more about throwing a protective arm around your pals than digging out the slackers.

I had to laugh when Mulgrew was on. I don't know about big dressing room leader and all that because the only thing he says is 'aye' !

I don't think he's always faking injury but he's certainly ' declared' himself for a few time for NI. Obviously means a lot to him but carrying players should be a thing of the past here. Some players will always bend the system so it takes strong management to get a grip of it. Hopefully that's what's happening here although I'm sceptical on that.

His comfy existence here should be over now step up to the plate club before country or go elsewhere. Let them pay you 15 grand per week to be carried for internationals. I mentioned something on the Rovers twitter feed after he'd been pulled by the club and it triggered a load of Irish responses. Most i presume not Rovers fans and they just could not grasp the club before country line at all. Oh he only plays for midtable championship side anyway was the jist of it. Somehow i think he's mostly had the same mindset. Said it a thousand times but that is exactly the attitude here that needs to change from top to bottom.

I'd certainly have Watford, Brighton and Palace in the same bracket as us. Or rather we should be were they are. All comfortable mid sized Prem clubs although Brightons crowds are a bit misleading. They are the Hull of modern times. 5 seasons back in the champ as a club going nowhere they'd be struggling to get 15k regularly imo.