The main negative for me has been that we have dropped 25 points from winning positions. Losing leads has been a recurring theme under Mowbray.

There is another punditism Andy that grinds my years - playing between the lines. WTF does that mean. My theory is that the condescending 'experts' make these silly things up to try and impress us mere mortals and justify their media work whilst imparting the professional opinion on us. As you say football is such a simple game and should be treated as such.

There are hundreds of players that play against Mowbrays teams and Dack was one of them. My wider point was that Mowbray generally likes to sign players he knows or that somebody at a previous club will endorse their character. As for the European scouting system the time to judge is when we actually sign some players who have been recommended. Personally I'll believe it when I see it. Will the new legislation ending free movement in Europe scupper any potential new signings?

How can it be a three up front when you say Graham was deeper. I just can't get my head around how you fit a false nine into a system. If it's as you say and Graham was a false nine (I disagree) then it should have been 4-3-1-2 to accommodate Graham being deeper. That's the nonsense of over complicating things for me.

I have always thought of Mowbrays transfer policies as lazy and picking the low hanging fruit. By that I mean players who he has worked with or been at his previous clubs where he can sound out his contacts about a particular player. The notable exception here is Dack who has been the jewel in Mowbrays transfer crown. Dack had a bit of a reputation at Gillingham of being a bit of a maverick and was no stranger to trouble. That is maybe why he was relatively cheap. If I ould wish for one thing in the next window it is that Mowbray comes out of his comfort zone and tries for another Dack or two.

Of course players will move around the pitch in a fluid system but in general Graham was playing down the middle and was the focal point of our attacks, doing what he does well by holding the ball up, bringing players into play and occupying their centre halves. Gallagher pretty much hogs the touchline in Mowbrays wide striker role.

No false nine, no wide strikers, no square pegs in round holes and no baffling tactics. The players seemed to know their roles and positions. The result is a solid performance and win. Hopefully Mowbray will at last realise that football really is a simple game. But I sincerely doubt it.

Barber - how very dare you. Footballers have hairdressers ??.

I too would like to see them both under a different manager. Preferably at a different club.

Pre Covid-19 I would have said give Downing a new deal but the in the last four months the footballing landscape has changed significantly and with that in mind I now wouldn't. It's not just Rovers who are counting the pennies. When this season ends in a couple of weeks there will be many Championship clubs pruning their wage bills but more importantly players will not be able to demand wages disproportionate to their ability. We will still have Mulgrew to shift and that won't come cheap.

This is the real by product of the wholly ineffective Fit and Proper farce. Once again the lower paid personnel are the ones to be hit. The EFL should be investigated for their inept negligence. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53318930

SPL fixtures are out today with the first games on August 1st. Despite meeting five days ago the EFL haven't given a firm date yet for the Championship to start. It's not like them to dither...........

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18561995.bielsa-rovers-tactical-switch-didnt-expect-leeds-visit/ Mowbray managed to confuse an esteemed coach like Bielsa with his tactics. Welcome to our world Marcelo. Actually if he watched us regularly he would know we play a centre forward in the wide right position.

And Waggott is complicit in this farce too. He is (allegedly) in charge and should have said no when Mowbray wanted to splurge money on players who simply will not contribute. The absolute brass neck of them both when the club are going round with the begging bowl to season ticket holders.

The 'assets' you mention are decent Championship players but nowhere near good enough for the PL. I can't see many, if any Championship clubs spending much money on new players as the majority are in the same position as us. Mowbray has to forget any notions he has about offering deals to any out of contract players and focus on bringing some of the youngsters in. It's going to be a few seasons of mid table being a success if things stay the same way.

We don’t want to be a midt-table team. We’ve come out of League One, we’ve consolidated and we want to push on and get into that top six. Maybe this group of players aren’t ready for that yet. That is a quote from Mowbray post match yesterday. It's the biggest admission yet that he is failing (although there is some buck passing) as this is his team, quite expensively assembled, and we have no identity, no way of playing, tactics which simply aren't suited to the players he has brought in and weaknesses in key positions. Quite simply we have peaked and now plateaued with Mowbray in charge. He is the archetypal win one, draw one and lose one manager.

And no Smallwood or Hart in the 20 man squad. I know I might sound like a stick record but why give them new deals?

I heard on Radio Lancashire last week that we have dropped 25 points from winning positions.

I saw him minutes after we got relegated at Brentford as we were getting into the car for a miserable journey home. I have refereed him several times and know him reasonably well as we always used to chat about Rovers. I asked him outright about becoming our manager and he told me he expressed an interest when Coyle got the job but never got the courtesy of a reply. I find that symptomatic of the last decade. On the day he was with his son and daughter who were both decked out in Rovers kits.

Great detective work Mr Poirot ??. I had forgot that Robin Askwith was in it to add to his 'Confessions of a ..........' portfolio.

Which one? We now have a few to choose from ??.

Hopefully this will be the straw that broke the camels back. It has to be said that a lot of this corruption and poor ownership has come about through foreign 'investors' taking advantage of real weakness in the hierarchy of the English game.

Add to the lost gate receipts another £100k lost when Sky, for some reason, dropped the live coverage of the original game. I estimate the two combined to be well over £300k.

What this whole sorry episode needs is not some wishy washy investigation by the toothless football authorities but a criminal investigation by the fraud squad and expose the whole 'fit and proper' sham and illegal operations for what it really is. Football really needs a new brush to sweep away the ineptitude and corruption that runs through it likes stick of rock. Unfortunately the likes of Wigan (and even ultimately us) could be collateral damage in the process.

?? It was called Four Dimensions of Greta and was the first 3D film I saw, not bad for the early seventies. It centred around a Brentford footballer who was a bit of a player (with the women that is) and lots of shots were in the ground. The actor made lots of 'big John centre forward' references as well as mentioning other players from the then Brentford team. We saw it at the Odeon and as a group of adolescents were giggling through it. The O'Mara mention was the highlight ???.