I read the article and didn't read anything that clearly said refunds. I don't want to watch ifollow and if Waggott had put several options on the table I would have said to them just keep the money. What is wrong in my view is Waggott taking advantage of us.

I knew they would play the skint card and try and garner sympathy. Don't we have wealthy owners? If they offered different solutions like Derby did I would have probably just let them have my cash but the Hobsons Choice they have offered is unacceptable to me.

I saw Sitting in Limbo on BBC 1 last night and really enjoyed it. It was about the Windrush scandal and How appallingly had people were treated. How on earth the likes of May can sleep at night is frightening.

Sky originally had our game against Leeds scheduled for live coverage but in todays schedule it isn't. I think the tv fee is £100k for home teams and this, coupled with the lost revenue from Leeds ticket sales would total around £300k.

Derby made the announcement below last week. It pretty much covers everything and should be the template for all the Championship clubs. JHRover brought this to our attention last week. https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2020/06/derby-county-refund-and-exchange-policy

Thanks for posting this Den. Big Jim with his lamb chop sideburns was one of my first heroes. That goal against City is still fresh in my mind as he rose and got a perfect connection on the ball. I can still hear the Blackburn End singing 'Jim, Jim bang one in'. RIP.

The meeting has been put back to Tuesday. Interestingly the article stresses that June 20th is only a provisional and that there is feeling amongst some managers that it's too soon. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52914059 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52907396

Aside from two or three weeks the players have all had fitness programmes specifically designed for each individual during the lockdown period. And by the time the season restarts they will have been back for nearly four weeks. On Rovers specifically I have read several interviews praising the players fitness levels. So I don't but the susceptible to injuries line. Extra substitutes is something that some managers have been pushing for for some time now.

How can the rules change part way through. Earlier in the season having the opportunity to use five substitutes may well have brought about different results and different tactics from clubs. Of course we'll never know for sure but I but I don't believe there has ever been a precedent for such a radical change part way there season. Your point about signings in January is moot because the rules are in place at the beginning of the season, not being changed part way through.

Look no further than Huddersfield for a prime example. Two seasons in the PL, parachute payments and now crying poverty.

Your post pretty much sums up where I am at the moment Parson. I have thought for a long time that football is so shallow but every day there seems to be another story which for me puts another nail in the coffin. Like your blind loyalty I am the same I would probably go back to Ewood when I feel it is safe to do so but I don't feel right now that it will ever be the same. Cancelling my Sky subscription of over 25 years last weekend was a seminal moment in my footballing life and I genuinely felt a lot better once I'd done it. I will not be paying for and watching Rovers on a small laptop screen neither, I will listen on the radio if it's available. If not I'll probably do something else that I've found I enjoy doing for the last ten or so weeks.

The word integrity has been banded about a lot recently by many but how is changing the rules part way through a season fair? Clubs can now make five substitutions during a game which is half of the outfield players. It can't be right in my view to offer such an advantage that hasn't been afforded during the rest of the season. I wonder if they have thought about games going into extra time when the recent law change allowed for a extra substitution. Will that still be allowed so clubs will then be allowed six substitutes? Farcical.

I agree about the attendances but I really don't think it will be a problem for the FA. When Bury went to the wall their inaction and silence was palpable. The bulk of PL clubs will survive with smaller crowds due to the golden goose that is Sky. The EFL clubs are the ones at real risk here and I full expect a considerable number to go part time and even out of business.

My post was in light of the three Charlton players who are refusing to play with seemingly no recourse. https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5ed513af35577/bowyer-updates-on-preparations-ahead-of-provisional-june-20th-start-date

That's true because they were season long loans but are you saying the deal has been amended to take into account the extended season? I'm sure there was a story about one of our loanees and that their loan period ended before the playoff final and we would have to seek a new permission to play them should we have gotten there. One of my points about the out of contract players was that individually they might not want to jeopardise their future by getting injured for the sake of a month or two.

Finance could well play a part in the thought process. Brighton and Man City will want extra payments and giving the likes of Graham, Bell, Downing and Leutwiler another month won't be cheap. I guess Mowbray and Waggott have to balance that against the chances of reaching the playoffs.

After reading about the Charlton players yesterday I got thinking about Rovers situation as the start date of June 20th now seems cast in stone. We have two loan players who arguably have been amongst the mainstays of our team whose loan deals are due to expire ten days after the restart. Without them we are severely weakened and I don't believe we would really has say in whether they play beyond June 30th. The decision would lie with their parent club and the players themselves. Uppermost in the clubs and players minds must be fear of injury. Similarly we have several out of contract players who it seems will not offered deals as nothing has happened yet. These include Graham, Bell and Leutwiler who are all part of the first team squad. I saw Graham interviewed yesterday and he mentioned being out of contract but so far no offer of a new deal. He did however mention the possibility of monthly contracts. If Leutwiler and Walton are not available it leaves a massive void in the keeper area. Similarly Bell and Tosin would leave us exposed defensively. It will clearly be something Mowbray is aware of but something he doesn't have control over.

It had everything Andy. There was sadness, poignancy, laughter and other emotionally charged things which made it brilliant. It was a kind of social commentary from that time and it was apt that Liverpool was the setting. I have many favourite scenes but the one where Yosser is in the confessional box was tragicomedy. The redundancy party in the pub in the last episode was memorable too with the Shake Hands character.

If I remember correctly Andy Julie Walters was the screen wife of Michael Angelis in Boys from the Blackstuff. Boys from the Blackstuff was Alan Bleasedale at his finest.

I really don't understand your last sentence. For the majority on here it's Rovers and then generally other football falls behind. Along with my brothers we have been watching Rovers over 150 years and speaking to them they are so unmotivated and ambivalent towards football at the moment it's hard to envisage them getting season tickets whenever they are on sale. The last ten weeks have given many, many people a wake up call to other things that push football further down their priority list. Personally I have missed going to watch Rovers with friends and family but not the actual football itself which is hit and miss. There hasn't been a void left in my life through not being able to watch football and that is only the reasons I have cancelled my Sky Sports subscription.

I thought he was fantastic in Boys from the Blackstuff Andy. He also played a really good role in Auf Wiedersehen Pet.

Of course you hear them unless you are just being selective. It's a choice that people make and whilst it is one of my reasons for cancelling I know of quite a few who have simply said they can't afford it anymore and football has slipped down their list of priorities. You have to understand that there are differing views to yours.

The FA are still hopeful the Youth Cup can be completed. I don't know how clubs will be with regard to the scholars contracts coming to an end, probably before the suggested dates. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52864383

My Sky Sports subscription has been suspended and yesterday I dang Sky to cancel it completely. The pleasant young lady asked me why and I told her that I just don't want to watch football without any supporters inside the stadiums. I also said the last few weeks have confirmed a long held view that the EPL and Championship have become ogres with money being more important than anything. The fear of having to pay back broadcasting money has perversely been dressed up as integrity - a bigger oxy moron you would struggle to find.

Too much dithering for me. Clubs are now meeting on June 8th to decide how to end the Championship and League One. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52847826